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Offline Terry in Australia

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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2012, 07:09:27 PM »
Ha ha, I just snorted Johnny walker and coke outta my nose Dave, and it fcuking burns! ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2012, 07:21:00 PM »
sorry terry,,,for what its worth i met a homeless "birdman"here on the coast a few years ago,,his hair is like a birds nest with sticks and stuff in it,,i was doing a skip bin changeover at the rear at a loading dock and lowering a full bin into the empty bin and they were just a little out of line and not dropping in cleanly,i was operating from in the cab and he pushed and squared up the bin so it went in for me,he was picking up ciggarette butts for the left over tobacco,i said thanks man etc,he didnt ask for anything but began to preach how birds own the planet etc,,i had to pretend the two way radio was calling me to get away,i see him now and again pushing his wheel barrow and toot the horn and he remembers me.

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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2012, 07:43:33 PM »
They has a beggar hook up with an accountant who prepared his taxes and kept his books. The gross was $120K. He was able to deduct his expenses such as second hand coats and his cup.

Only guy I will give something to a a fellow that stands on the off ramp of the George Washington Bridge with his dog. He is a Vietnam Vet and he refuses to take his disability.  The truckers give him food for he and his Dog.

Evey once and a while the Cops take he and the Dog into protective custody to be checked out Medically. In a few days they cut them loose.
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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2012, 07:48:46 PM »
I was going to school one morning, past all the street kids hanging out on the sidewalk and one of them asked me if I had change...I pulled out my wallet, looked in, and said "Yeah...I could break a $20 for ya.."  I don't think that was what he had in mind...

and I've heard those freeway onramps can be dangerous...if you start standing out there with your "need money" sign, the pimp that owns that corner will come by and pay you a visit...
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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2012, 10:35:34 PM »
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I've been temped on a day off or something to go and sit and watch them (the panhandlers) for  the day and than follow them to see where they go after they put up there signs and leave the street corner

DHAll, I bet you would be pissed off doin that a few times with a few different panhandlers. In probably most of all our communities there are a few beggars that make a career out of it, and even though citizens and law enforcement know of what he/she are doing they continue. Theres one guy that comes to mind here in Joplin who is an older dude and his dog that 'reside' on the deceleration ramp at the Petro truck stop from roughly sun rise to sun set. Hes been there off and on for years that Im aware of, and has even got a new mixed breed dog once his Shepperd died (I assume). If you follow this guy about dusk he'll walk down the highway a few miles to a trailer park and hop in his much-more-than-I-can-afford truck. Ive followed him twice now over 1 summer and man was I pissed. Pissed for him makein his dog follow his con act. F**k him, hes makein better money than me probably, I wish they wouldnt use animals to seal the deal. But for the ones that do I keep a few pounds of dry dog food and a few liters of water in the truck. Sometimes the person in need are very thankful and then there are the ones who are hateful that Im helping the dog and not the begger. Every situation requires its own decision.

One learning experience Ill never forget from my youth comes to mind 9 outta 10 times when I see someone asking for a handout/hand-up. In my first go around of college I attended an after school hours freethinkers class held by my then psychology instructor. It was based upon the humanistic needs of humans to do positive actions to others and it had its own group of variables to run the experiment: man helping man with a broke down vehicle, man helping man with donating money or goods, student helping drunken student up from the lawn, there were many scenarios. He would break our group into smaller groups with certain controls of the experiment and then record the data that was presented. The first experiment I helped with was getting to the local walmart and setting up 'shop' consisting of roughed up clothes and a sign stating that I needed money. Then it was recorded how each person donated to my cause by my other helper who was in a car nearby. ----Long story I know but having taken part in this always make me wonder if the person that I might be helping on a given day might just be another person doing the same experiment that I did so many years ago.

Like others previously stated, there are many people that need help for many reasons, and I believe its only gunna get worse. Rough times are definitely on the way. I hope we all find the best road through it..........Boats  8)
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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2012, 01:15:59 AM »
cleared your nose Terry?youll like this one then.
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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2012, 01:18:05 AM »
When I was in the Army, to support my motorcycle habit, I worked part time at a service station in a pretty rough suburb. It was all public housing and most of the residents were ex jaibirds, or families of jailbirds. Drugs, alcohol, violent crime, (I witnessed a murder in the same suburb a few years prior when I lived in an Army house there, and my wife befriended a little girl who was murdered by a pedophile a few months later) you name it, West Heidelberg was the epicentre of arse-holiness.

One of the regular scum-buckets was a scabby prick called Dennis. Dennis was a heroin addict, who was on a methodone program, but he'd score smack daily and then have the methodone for "Morning Tea". He was long term unemployed, and totally unemployable. Centrelink (the government welfare office) stopped giving him money because he would buy drugs but no food, so instead they put him on the "Meals on Wheels" program, meant for old people, and genuine invalids. Dennis was paralysed down one side after he attempted to commit suicide by shooting himself through the head with a .22 pistol. Sadly he used a low velocity slug and shot himself thru the frontal lobes which partly paralysed him, but just made him a bigger arsehole.

Dennis would accost my customers at the gas station, usually wearing his filthy hospital issue pyjama's, usually with his dicck hanging out. He would beg them for money, and scream abuse at them if they said no. He was a scary looking reptile, and he'd pick on women, because the local men were pretty hard and they'd punch schidt out of him if he tried it on them. He would then come into the shop to bum cigarettes, then realise that it was me, and leave very quickly. I'm a friendly guy, but I hated Dennis after he conned me into letting him use the toilet when I was new, where he proceeded to crap and pee everywhere but in the pan, and drop his used needle in the middle of it all.

I'd occasionally daydreamed about killing Dennis, he had a habit of limping down the middle of the road so it would have been easy late at night after my shift ended, but the heroin dealer across the road from the gas station beat me to it, and gave him a hotshot. I hate drug dealers, but I always had a soft spot for that particular drug dealer after that. I'm sure that there are "do-gooders" out there who'd consider Dennis a "victim", but Dennis was beyond redemption, and the world (or at least the residents of West Heidelberg) are better off, for his passing. Cheers, Terry. ;D 
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2012, 01:22:31 AM »
cleared your nose Terry?youll like this one then.

Ha ha, superb Dave, that's cheering me up! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2012, 01:24:08 AM »
we like old rolf,,he actually painted a portrait of her majesty!

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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2012, 12:56:02 PM »
Having been down and out in my chequered life (much, much younger) all I can say is I was grateful for the hand outs, really grateful and I usually give what I can to people that look needy, but the last time was approached by a large young guy so I gave him maybe 2$ in change wandered off for a little while came back and he tried to hit me up again and got mouthy when I said no with a little intimidation thrown in and I got pissed and told him so, and left it with, go ahead sport lets just see how well you do, he decided because it was so public to move along, rather than push it, the ass hole, I never saw him again, pan handling or other wise, just as well, I would talked to the cops about him. As far as me being young at the time of need I was 15 and had run away from home and was hitch hiking in the states with no money, trying to get back to home in Vancouver. Long story, not too bright kid.
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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2012, 03:08:45 PM »
 Ha I tried to run away at 15.. got caught the next morning, in WA state.. Ah the adventure of it all...
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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2012, 04:27:24 AM »
754 with me it was northern California, who knew it got below freezing there.
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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2012, 06:47:54 AM »
There was a panhandler near here, a local TV station did an expose' on him. Turned out he had a good job downtown and a nice house in the burbs, Just a greedy prick that wanted some extra cash. He claimed to be an injured vet or something. The exposure put an end to his begging.
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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2012, 07:28:32 AM »
Geez Rolf I'd forgotten about him.
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Re: Panhandling
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2012, 12:37:32 AM »
I worked for a homeless shelter..years ago. Many of the nightly "residents" there were either chronic alcoholics or substance abusers.  All could get casual labor /work out of the shelter (albeit for minimum wage mostly)..if they chose to.  Most didn't.  Many would panhandle around town..to afford the booze..etc..to keep their buzz on.

If you'll note: panhandlers are frequently within a few blocks of a liquor store.  Coincidence?  I believe that statistics suggest that well over half of panhandlers are chronic substance abusers.  Can empathize with those down and out financially (especially fellow vets)..but how "compassionate" is it to further enable their addictions..I ask myself.

Even though I feel for their predicaments..giving money to further that lifestyle seems counterproductive (for them and society) to me.  I usually smile..wave..and wish them the best.  If I actually knew who they were..or they had obvious physical handicaps..then I would be more inclined to offer money.  The shelters and other public aide facilities are not that hard to find..if they choose to use them..I believe..

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