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Offline cabrala

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Just an Introduction...And a Question
« on: January 19, 2012, 12:30:37 PM »
I've been an avid reader of the site for a while, but I've never had much to talk about until now. Just recently I picked up a 1977 CB550K in damn good shape and with the $1,200 purchase the gentleman through in a 1978 CB550 (deemed a parts bike with missing paperwork). Pictures of both bikes will hopefully attach to this post. I'm excited to "officially" be a part of the community and look forward to learning from all who know much, much more than I ever will about these machines.

Now onto the real reason for this post. I have decided that instead of tearing into the '77, I would make a project of the '78. The problem is that in order to decide whether it is worth the time, money, etc. I have to address some carburetor issues. The PD46C rack does not seem to have many parts available, and without any disassembly, I know am missing two bowls as well as the accompanying internal parts.  The remainder is up in the air until I break them down.

I have a lead on a rack from the '74 to '76 range but have received mixed opinions on how big of a pain in the rear it will be to convert (i.e. manifold, choke, throttle). Is there more literature on this question? Has any one completed the conversion? Do you recommend it? Is it worth salvaging the PD's even with minimal parts available?
-Alex

'75 CB750F
'77 CB550K
'78 CB550
'93 FZR600

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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 01:17:30 PM »
That is a great looking 77 550. Welcome to the club. As far as the carbs are concerned the PD's were on the 550 later models due to epa changes. I am not 100% positive but I think you are able to go with different carbs with very little modifications... The 550 experts here are TwoTired and Dave500 and I beleive DeltaRider... If I missed anyone I am truely sorry..... when on the main page, use the search button. I know this has been covered before.
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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 04:44:33 PM »
Welcome to the forum!

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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 05:26:49 PM »
welcome and you will find that the fine folks on here are a wealth of knowledge!! cruise the main page and i think you will find more info and manuals than you could wish for on your particular model. great score on your bikes and a think you will enjoy them. dont be afraid to ask questions here no matter how silly they may be. these are a bunch of great folks. but do some research first as in search this forum for your question.as in it has already been asked.

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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 05:34:00 PM »
Fix up the '77 the way you want it, ride the hell out of it, then break up and sell the parts from the '78 to recoup some of your initial investment.

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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 04:36:35 AM »
What sort of project would the 78' be without papers?
TAMTF...


Wilbur



Projects:
"Evolution": http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=100352.0
"P.O. Debacle": http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,126692.msg1441661.html#msg1441661
F2/F3 O-rings: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113672.msg1300721#msg1300721
Cam Tower Studs: https://www.mcmaster.com/#93210a017/=t19sgp
Clean up that nasty harness: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=137351.msg1549191#msg1549191
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,148188.msg1688494.html#msg1688494
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,139544.msg1579364.html#msg1579364
                                          
Charging system diagnosis: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=1012.msg8345#msg8345
Get the manuals: http://manuals.sohc4.net/cb750k/
The Dragon: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.msg1571675#msg1571675
Headlight Switch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113986.msg1283236#msg1283236
Branden's leak free top end thread: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=107040.0
Engine Lifting Made Easy: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,58210.msg1684742.html#msg1684742
                                      http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1675840.html#msg1675840
Static and Dynamic Timing: http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/carb_info/timing/timing1.html
Airbox Gasket Replacement: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,114485.msg1290000.html#msg1290000
"Café" : http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,84697.msg953814.html#msg953814
PD Carb Choke Linkage: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1669248.html#msg1669248
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,110931.msg1248354.html#msg1248354
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,48858.msg515204.html#msg515204
Follow up on your damn posts: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,144305.msg1791605.html#msg1791605
Taiwanese Cam Chain Tensioners:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,155043.msg1774841.html#msg1774841
Gumtwo Seat Cover: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,164440.msg1897366.html#msg1897366
Primary Drive: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,166063.msg1919278.html#msg1919278
Tank Latch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,165975.msg1919495.html#msg1919495
Shorten your forks: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-shorten-forks-td4042465.html DO NOT CUT THE SPRINGS!
Clutch How To: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-change-and-adjust-a-clutch-SOHC-td4040391.html
Late model K7/K8/F2/F3 front sprocket cover removal: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,178428.msg2072279.html#msg2072279
630 to 530 conversion: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180710.msg2094423.html#msg2094423

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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 04:40:53 AM »
You know, I'd love to do the things I had planned to on that '77 but I remember reading some philosophical posts a while back about "letting bikes tell you what they want to be"; I can't in good conscious break her down. I'm no purist but that machine wants to be what it is now.

Therefore I am still left with the desire to tear into something and I have a '78 staring me in the face every day. Maybe it's financially irresponsible, but I'm not so sure that any of us got into the fours for the wealth.

As it currently stands nomad, I am indeed going to ride the hell out of the '77, but try piece back together the '78. I will start with the motor and carbs and move on from there.

I appreciate the welcome from you all and looking forward to asking questions, including the silly ones.  :D
-Alex

'75 CB750F
'77 CB550K
'78 CB550
'93 FZR600

Need a better, newer points cover gasket? How about rubber washers for the headlight bucket? Click the link below:
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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 04:43:13 AM »
And silly me for the oversight...

Welcome aboard!
TAMTF...


Wilbur



Projects:
"Evolution": http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=100352.0
"P.O. Debacle": http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,126692.msg1441661.html#msg1441661
F2/F3 O-rings: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113672.msg1300721#msg1300721
Cam Tower Studs: https://www.mcmaster.com/#93210a017/=t19sgp
Clean up that nasty harness: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=137351.msg1549191#msg1549191
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,148188.msg1688494.html#msg1688494
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,139544.msg1579364.html#msg1579364
                                          
Charging system diagnosis: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=1012.msg8345#msg8345
Get the manuals: http://manuals.sohc4.net/cb750k/
The Dragon: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.msg1571675#msg1571675
Headlight Switch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113986.msg1283236#msg1283236
Branden's leak free top end thread: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=107040.0
Engine Lifting Made Easy: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,58210.msg1684742.html#msg1684742
                                      http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1675840.html#msg1675840
Static and Dynamic Timing: http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/carb_info/timing/timing1.html
Airbox Gasket Replacement: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,114485.msg1290000.html#msg1290000
"Café" : http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,84697.msg953814.html#msg953814
PD Carb Choke Linkage: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1669248.html#msg1669248
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,110931.msg1248354.html#msg1248354
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,48858.msg515204.html#msg515204
Follow up on your damn posts: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,144305.msg1791605.html#msg1791605
Taiwanese Cam Chain Tensioners:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,155043.msg1774841.html#msg1774841
Gumtwo Seat Cover: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,164440.msg1897366.html#msg1897366
Primary Drive: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,166063.msg1919278.html#msg1919278
Tank Latch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,165975.msg1919495.html#msg1919495
Shorten your forks: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-shorten-forks-td4042465.html DO NOT CUT THE SPRINGS!
Clutch How To: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-change-and-adjust-a-clutch-SOHC-td4040391.html
Late model K7/K8/F2/F3 front sprocket cover removal: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,178428.msg2072279.html#msg2072279
630 to 530 conversion: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180710.msg2094423.html#msg2094423

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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 04:43:48 AM »
madmtnmotors, I did some research on the bike and found the owner from the last issued title. If I request a duplicate title from the RMV, the gentleman will sign it over to me and then I have to apply for a new title in my name. Essentially I pay for it twice and I am ok with that. I figure it's worth more either way I decide with paperwork.
-Alex

'75 CB750F
'77 CB550K
'78 CB550
'93 FZR600

Need a better, newer points cover gasket? How about rubber washers for the headlight bucket? Click the link below:
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=122308.0

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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 05:25:49 AM »
Welcome to the Forum, cabrala!  Nice '77, I'd definitely leave that bike stock, it just looks to nice.  Great score and with a bike to wrench on as well, who could ask for more?  Sounds like you gotta plan.  Be sure to post in the 500/550 Registry thread as well.

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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 05:35:21 AM »
madmtnmotors, I did some research on the bike and found the owner from the last issued title. If I request a duplicate title from the RMV, the gentleman will sign it over to me and then I have to apply for a new title in my name. Essentially I pay for it twice and I am ok with that. I figure it's worth more either way I decide with paperwork.

Well worth the effort and minimal cost to save another one from the "parts only" doom! Paper is good...
TAMTF...


Wilbur



Projects:
"Evolution": http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=100352.0
"P.O. Debacle": http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,126692.msg1441661.html#msg1441661
F2/F3 O-rings: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113672.msg1300721#msg1300721
Cam Tower Studs: https://www.mcmaster.com/#93210a017/=t19sgp
Clean up that nasty harness: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=137351.msg1549191#msg1549191
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,148188.msg1688494.html#msg1688494
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,139544.msg1579364.html#msg1579364
                                          
Charging system diagnosis: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=1012.msg8345#msg8345
Get the manuals: http://manuals.sohc4.net/cb750k/
The Dragon: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.msg1571675#msg1571675
Headlight Switch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113986.msg1283236#msg1283236
Branden's leak free top end thread: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=107040.0
Engine Lifting Made Easy: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,58210.msg1684742.html#msg1684742
                                      http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1675840.html#msg1675840
Static and Dynamic Timing: http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/carb_info/timing/timing1.html
Airbox Gasket Replacement: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,114485.msg1290000.html#msg1290000
"Café" : http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,84697.msg953814.html#msg953814
PD Carb Choke Linkage: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1669248.html#msg1669248
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,110931.msg1248354.html#msg1248354
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,48858.msg515204.html#msg515204
Follow up on your damn posts: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,144305.msg1791605.html#msg1791605
Taiwanese Cam Chain Tensioners:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,155043.msg1774841.html#msg1774841
Gumtwo Seat Cover: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,164440.msg1897366.html#msg1897366
Primary Drive: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,166063.msg1919278.html#msg1919278
Tank Latch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,165975.msg1919495.html#msg1919495
Shorten your forks: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-shorten-forks-td4042465.html DO NOT CUT THE SPRINGS!
Clutch How To: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-change-and-adjust-a-clutch-SOHC-td4040391.html
Late model K7/K8/F2/F3 front sprocket cover removal: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,178428.msg2072279.html#msg2072279
630 to 530 conversion: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180710.msg2094423.html#msg2094423

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Re: Just an Introduction...And a Question
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 07:09:19 AM »
There are a few people here that can help you get papers from states that have easier rules on vehicle titles.

Maybe one will chime in here, as I can't recall names.
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