Author Topic: Its time to build a 836 Turbo (Read 106165 times)

Jim F · « **Reply #275 on:** July 28, 2012, 09:01:20 AM »

The real reason for this was I was going to run the head backwards and run it like a top fuel bike
(Yeah right) The BS is getting deep

This is what happens when you assume

Mike and Bill get the (Jim needs to pay attention) prize
the pistons were oriented 180 degrees out. I checked the relation to the valve off set
in the head and the exhaust valves are centered but the intakes are offset.
thanks again guys
and Sam was right also in that some pistons by MTC have the larger cut outs on the exhaust side for the
turbo bikes.
these are turbo pistons but the larger cut outs are for the intake side and not the exhaust
Glad I have friends that arnt afraid of jumping in and telling me I screwed up

Jim

and the O rings will not go back in Mike
thanks for that as I dint know this

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #276 on:** July 28, 2012, 09:10:41 AM »

So are you saying that as well as being in the wrong bores, they are also back to front

Sam. $:-\$

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #277 on:** July 28, 2012, 10:02:35 AM »

Sam,I agree,ex cuts surely not going to work where they're at!

Jim........you still with us?

Bill.....Ain't it FUN?

Didn't read last post! As long as you got 'em RIGHT,you'll be much happier!! ;)Probably 90% of the time lg. cut on intake side.
You go Jimmy,I been working on Calendar Girl,will post later.

Screwed up...no way ,experience just means you already been there!

....just don't forget the OIL!...Frank,you still gonna feed me?

See ya'll on th 18th,we going RACING!!!!!!

Jim F · « **Reply #278 on:** July 28, 2012, 12:03:31 PM »

all is well as the pistons are where they should be. the head is on and everything is torqued (22ft lbs)
next stage is the valve train, cam timing
Mike did you send me the 6 rubber seals that go under the towers
I cant find them (But what else is new)

Jim

Jim F · « **Reply #279 on:** July 28, 2012, 02:26:41 PM »

And I know what the screw driver is not suppose to be there
so leave all the bad jokes at the front door

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #280 on:** July 28, 2012, 02:41:40 PM »

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very sexy......the engine! ;)Batcave has plenty of rubber wafers and you better use new/good ones,OK NEW ones!!!!!!

Bring me the extra cam!

Good job....no BLING?

???WRONG,Beautiful Bling.I'd say! Really looks nice Jim

,but.......... we gotta talk about that gauge....package!

Bill

Jim F · « **Reply #281 on:** July 28, 2012, 05:09:29 PM »

it holds the gauges just fine so leave it alone. no polish no paint no powder coating not nothin
I have ordered new seals from bike bandit
and they will be here the first of next week

thanks Bill and I am glad that the head is at least on the right way..............The
motorcycle head that is ..........mine I am no so sure about sometimes

Jim

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #282 on:** July 28, 2012, 05:39:03 PM »

Have a shot or beer,you've done quite well!

Bill

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #283 on:** July 29, 2012, 04:35:10 AM »

Quote from: Jim F on July 28, 2012, 02:26:41 PM

And I know what the screw driver is not suppose to be there
so leave all the bad jokes at the front door

What screw driver

....oh, I see it, (front door) shouldn't it be the other way round ?

Sam.

Jim F · « **Reply #284 on:** July 29, 2012, 07:15:13 AM »

should have known you just couldn't leave it alone Sam............

and yes one of my dogs ate the other end off

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #285 on:** July 29, 2012, 09:01:18 AM »

Jim F · « **Reply #286 on:** July 29, 2012, 09:08:06 AM »

Quote from: Bill/BentON Racing on July 28, 2012, 05:39:03 PM

Have a shot or beer,you've done quite well! Bill

When it comes off the dyno with 100+ Hp then its beer time

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #287 on:** July 29, 2012, 11:12:53 AM »

That shouldn't be a problem, I'll have a Boddingtons for you right now.

Jim F · « **Reply #288 on:** July 29, 2012, 04:23:20 PM »

drink another one for me
By the way
Have you guys Hurd of chimay?
Good stuff

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #289 on:** July 29, 2012, 10:56:07 PM »

Yes, Murphy got me on it a few years ago, it had been voted the worlds best beer a few years back.

Sam.

dragracer · « **Reply #290 on:** July 31, 2012, 08:31:45 PM »

Quote from: Bill/BentON Racing on July 28, 2012, 10:02:35 AM

Sam,I agree,ex cuts surely not going to work where they're at! Jim........you still with us? Bill.....Ain't it FUN?
Didn't read last post! As long as you got 'em RIGHT,you'll be much happier!! ;)Probably 90% of the time lg. cut on intake side.
You go Jimmy,I been working on Calendar Girl,will post later.
Screwed up...no way ,experience just means you already been there! ....just don't forget the OIL!...Frank,you still gonna feed me? See ya'll on th 18th,we going RACING!!!!!!

All looking good there Jim. And yes Bill, still plan to break bread with you and Jim on the 18th. Got word from NHRA that they will be emailing me a temporay licence tomorrow so now i can run quicker than 9.99 without getting thrown out of the place-lol.

Jim should bring the motor with him so we can eat off of it (clean!!!!)

Jim F · « **Reply #291 on:** August 02, 2012, 01:15:41 PM »

will bring motor for food.....................
no wait................ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

I can gas your bike up for food........
yeah thats the ticket

I am hoping the motor will be in the frame by then
and ready to start to hood everything up

Jim

y2kc0wb0y · « **Reply #292 on:** August 02, 2012, 08:50:06 PM »

1 CHIMAY 2 SHE WILL

Jim F · « **Reply #293 on:** August 11, 2012, 10:24:58 AM »

Well after a couple of small bumps in the road I am back on track.
learned a lot about flange nuts and how many times you can tighten a nut
before they start to fail. With the APE kits that I have (Case and cylinder)
the flange nuts are good for 2 rounds of going threw the torque sequence
first, for plasti gauge and then for final torque. IF you have to pull the cases apart (And I did a couple of times)
then either get new flange nuts or go with the Honda exhaust nuts the Mike Reick told me. Honda part number 90301-HM8-000
These have twice the threads as the ones in the APE kits and they are plated so they wont rust. (Thanks Mike)

Also one of the reasons for splitting the cases (for the finale time I might add) was that
I got a little too liberal with the sealant and got too close to the mains as Brian livingood noted. Hes the owner of livingood motorsports and the engine builder of road race and drag race engines. He brought over a Busa motor for a little welding (Customer threw a chain) and wanted to see how my build was going and he suggested that if this was his motor then he would pull it apart and re-do sealing the cases. He showed me a page in one of his manuals and it showed were to apply the sealer and were to stay away. Thanks Brian.

So as I am not a seasoned engine builder, it sure is nice to have so many looking over my shoulder.
Thanks everyone

Here is the progress to date
Also ready for the cam to be timed.
This shows the new flange nuts

valve train with new rocker arms, adjusters and of course a special cam for the turbo

Doctor_D · « **Reply #294 on:** August 11, 2012, 12:41:22 PM »

Looks great. Really looking forward to seeing what kind of numbers it puts down.

(I always feel like I'm so close to done when I button up a motor - and then reality sinks in.)

dragracer · « **Reply #295 on:** August 12, 2012, 08:50:05 PM »

Wow, lots of progress Jim. Nice work.

Jim F · « **Reply #296 on:** August 13, 2012, 06:40:44 AM »

Thanks Frank,

Need to get the Cam timed and it will be ready to get it back in the frame for the rest of the fun
The problem is that they sent to timing cards with different numbers but I don't know the first thing
about cam timing so I will leave that to Bill or Brian

I didn't get a chance to talk to Bill this weekend but I am (We are still planing)
on getting up to commerce with weekend
looking forward to seeing you and your bride.

Jim

Jim F · « **Reply #297 on:** August 13, 2012, 02:49:38 PM »

shes loo-kin fast

I wanted to check everything to see how it fits
found out that you have to leave the exhaust flanges loose before
you put the exhaust on as well as everything else as it all has to kind of slide in to place

all in all it looks good

my favorite side

If I could ever figure out that shift linkage ...................

Jim

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #298 on:** August 13, 2012, 02:56:19 PM »

Orgasm orgasm.

y2kc0wb0y · « **Reply #299 on:** August 13, 2012, 04:06:13 PM »

Check out t-bolt clamps for your couplings.

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Author Topic: Its time to build a 836 Turbo (Read 106165 times)