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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 06:22:19 PM »
That's a nice Sporty Honda styled to look a little like an Original CB750K0...I like the styling better than the 83' CB1100F. The wheels are nice.
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 06:24:39 PM »
I think they still hold a grudge against us for kicking their ass in the war. It's the only reasonable explanation.
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 06:26:19 PM »
I don't know, the rest of the world gets nice stuff too. Just us in north america.

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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 06:28:04 PM »
They are afraid to sent that bike here because of Carpy. They know he would butcher it with checkers and gold.

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how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 06:33:27 PM »
US is a big market and plenty of people have to like the same thing to sell if or it's considered a failure... Us regulations as well... And the fact we don't use metric... A Japanese bike can go to Europe with near 0 modification.
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 06:50:03 PM »
Very nice, but dont they know the tank trim strips are available at Yamiya? $78
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 07:15:31 PM »
Dats a hole lot of beauiful motor---The horns have got go--I would rather hit someone,then have them---(at least chrome them)

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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 08:10:05 PM »
You guys are missing the point.. you can have a cb1100 styled like a classic K . Except.. you can't. You can buy a thruxton tho.

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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 08:11:34 PM »
Wait, the fact that we don't use metric? Is that a joke?

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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 08:20:55 PM »
That blue is hot!
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 08:41:12 PM »
 Not aircooled, no kicker  not interested....
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 09:24:40 PM »
It is air cooled.. that's an oil cooler hanging on the front. and you can kick it all you want, but it'd be a shame to scratch a bike that nice.

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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 09:50:20 PM »
We've got them here in Oz, Mick in Darwin (currently organising the GZ relay) has a silver one, and thinks it's pretty nice. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 10:05:01 PM »
The U.S.A. is only a SMALL part of the World market for bikes ... Believe-it-or-not Comrades... not all will come here just 'cos it's made.... See globe for proof  8)
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 10:25:46 PM »
as said my contact at honda said they were not sold here because of demographic reasons apparently there test marketing was unfavorable for the us market that is one of the reasons everything looks like a cruiser or a crotch rocket now and no longer a cb 
although nostalgia Is now in and they are consdering bringing back some of the old looks or so I was told
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2012, 10:27:13 PM »
that model bike was also sold in japan in a cruiser form more like a valkirie with hard bags and all I wish I had the money to have one imported
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2012, 11:20:51 PM »
It is air cooled.. that's an oil cooler hanging on the front. and you can kick it all you want, but it'd be a shame to scratch a bike that nice.

Did a quick google search and its liquid cooled, not air cooled. Nice looking non the less, the front brakes look nice. Bet they work real well.
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2012, 11:48:50 PM »
Wait, the fact that we don't use metric? Is that a joke?

Yes its a joke that you guys don't use metric, it is almost universal everywhere else and far far easier than the old Imperial system,  but hey, who cares, it doesn't effect us..... :P
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2012, 11:52:49 PM »
It is air cooled.. that's an oil cooler hanging on the front. and you can kick it all you want, but it'd be a shame to scratch a bike that nice.

Did a quick google search and its liquid cooled, not air cooled. Nice looking non the less, the front brakes look nice. Bet they work real well.

Sorry dude but its air cooled with an oil cooler.... ;)  We've had them here in OZ for a while now....

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Honda makes no great claims about the CB1100’s mechanical underpinnings. Nevertheless, the technical expertise that has gone into building a big air-cooled engine that meets today’s stringent noise and exhaust emission standards, should not be under-estimated. Significant temperature variation within air-cooled engines can make the emission-control task more challenging and generally requires greater cold clearances between some components, in turn producing more mechanical noise. The lack of the double-wall of a water-jacket can also contribute to noise emissions.
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2012, 11:57:59 PM »
not to be confused with this model,,same engine?
http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Honda/2010_CB1100/Review.htm

4-4 pipes would have been a nice touch.
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2012, 12:01:31 AM »
not to be confused with this model,,same engine?
http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Honda/2010_CB1100/Review.htm

4-4 pipes would have been a nice touch.

Thats the same bike Dave, just the Japanese have made some nice dress up bits for it..... ;)
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2012, 12:23:54 AM »
I remember the Münch Mammut monster that had a 1200cc NSU car engine fitted. Am I the only one that doesn't like these bikes at all?
What's the point of 1100cc? If you use that power, you'll need a new rear tire within 4000kms.  It shows it's all to impress and not for real riding pleasure. I'm surprised it's for the market in Japan as they used to have a law that you are not allowed to ride a bike unless you can upright it by yourself when fallen over. More something for the American market where quantity is quality. I don't wanna be seen on such a bike. People will suspect you of having an inferiority complex.
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Re: how come Japan keeps all the good stuff for themselves?
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2012, 12:59:48 AM »
It is air cooled.. that's an oil cooler hanging on the front. and you can kick it all you want, but it'd be a shame to scratch a bike that nice.

Did a quick google search and its liquid cooled, not air cooled. Nice looking non the less, the front brakes look nice. Bet they work real well.


Sorry dude but its air cooled with an oil cooler.... ;)  We've had them here in OZ for a while now....

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Honda makes no great claims about the CB1100’s mechanical underpinnings. Nevertheless, the technical expertise that has gone into building a big air-cooled engine that meets today’s stringent noise and exhaust emission standards, should not be under-estimated. Significant temperature variation within air-cooled engines can make the emission-control task more challenging and generally requires greater cold clearances between some components, in turn producing more mechanical noise. The lack of the double-wall of a water-jacket can also contribute to noise emissions.

Wierd, this list of specs was at the end of the review I found. An australian one at that.

http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Honda/2010_CB1100/Review.htm


Specs – Honda CB1100
Engine – 1140cc, liquid-cooled four-stroke, in-line four
Bore x Stroke – 73.5x67.2mm
Compression Ratio – 9.5:1
Transmission – Five speed, chain drive
Seat Height – 775mm
Length x Width x Height – 2195 x 835 x 1130mm
Wheelbase – 1490mm
Caster - 27°
Trail – 114mm
Tyres – 110/80R18 (F), 140/70R18 (R), Dunlop D205
Wet Weight – 247kg
Fuel Capacity – 14.6 Litres
Average Consumption on test – 6 litres per 100km
Range – 240km
Warranty – Two years
Price – Expect to pay $14,990 plus on road costs
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