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Offline dakota

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CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« on: January 28, 2012, 10:22:03 AM »
Hi,
the F2 is wet sumping....
after checking this forum I have to replace 2 parts in the oil pump:
15166-300-000 oil leak stopper seal
15171-300-010 oil leak stopper spring
But where can I find them?
regards
« Last Edit: January 28, 2012, 11:11:32 AM by dakota »

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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 10:32:16 AM »
Short answer is you ain't, unless you can find old stock somewhere, BUT all is not lost as frequently stripping out and careful cleaning will cure the problem
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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 08:21:09 PM »
I bought the last stoppers CMSNL had in stock.
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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 11:47:20 PM »
Try this guy, http://www.bkperformance.com.au/ I bought one of him about 6 months ago and he still had a couple left.
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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 04:22:34 AM »
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stripping out and careful cleaning will cure the problem

It worked for me.

The plunger was stuck open and the bore was the tiniest bit out of round. A few strokes with some 220 grit and it worked free and easy
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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 08:27:04 AM »
The fit on these parts is not critical and the seal will seal pretty well even after 30 years unless severely damaged... and there isn't rally anything in strained oil that can do severe damage. You may still get slight seepage that lets the tank empty to the sump over weeks but is that a big problem?
The mechanism gets gummed up and a decent cleaning should have it in good working order.
While you have the pump out you can clean the screen at least, and disassemble the pump if you want. There aren't any internal parts separately available but you cen see the condition of the rotors and seals to gauge whether it needs attention. Someone here - Hondaman maybe? - was trying to find replacement O-rings and the oil seal between pumps but I don't know how that came out. The O-ring seals between the pump and engine are available at least.
All the O-rings are theoretically available but getting metric O-rings can be a challenge. There's a standard set of USA inch sized O-rings, set up for the WWII armament industry, so almost every inch O-ring used is one of the 400-odd sizes made standard. The metric world never did this and there are thousands of sizes used... all can be had but often one has to order a thousand or more when you only need a few.

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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 08:46:32 AM »
The shaft seal is available and the oring is easy to get. i rebuilt my pump recently. Getting the shaft seal out is the tricky part.
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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 10:39:22 PM »
Isn't the seal a goldwing part and the "O" ring the same as the 500 one?
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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 05:04:32 AM »
Isn't the seal a goldwing part and the "O" ring the same as the 500 one?
Yes Bryan. It's a Goldwing (and about 25 other models) part. The orings I got through a supply house.
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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 08:20:22 AM »
That seeems to be becoming typical Honda nowadays, use the same part but dont modify the old parts data to give the part number!
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Re: CB750 F2 - wet sumping
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 09:40:38 AM »
That seeems to be becoming typical Honda nowadays, use the same part but dont modify the old parts data to give the part number!

I found that with some o-rings in my engine, Honda motorcycle dealers list them as discontinued but I found them from a boat shop. Apparently they are still made and used in Honda boat motors, different part number but the same size and thickness.
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