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Some input, a bike for the wife.
« on: May 26, 2006, 05:31:36 PM »
Ok, let me get you guys up to speed. She is a short woman at 5'3" with a short inseam. Her personality makes her cautious. She is interested in a bike I am just trying to figure out what. If you guys have put your wives on bikes what did you do? The closest thing to a motorcycle she has riden is fast minibike. There is a place in the Dells that we can rent mopeds, might make for a funny outing but it would give her a small taste. OMG, yes I would takes pics of me on the ped  ::) and post them....

I was thinking of something around a 500 or 550. the sub 500's of just about any make have a very moped feel to them. They just suck. I want her to be able to keep up under normal conditions, not that much keeps up with my bike when I wail on it-but normal riding conditions. A cafe would be ok I think..... She always comments on rocket riders about the possibility of it being very uncomfortable. So maybe a cafe is not the thing right now. She loves the classic styling of my bike but there is no way in hell she could handle the beast. Just way way too heavy.

She likes to ride on the back of my bike but I can tell nothing would be cooler in the whole world than being on her own bike. She says riding a bike is akin to flying and freedom.

I think she finally understands.  ::)
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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2006, 06:11:34 PM »
400F, man!  Small enough for the short-statured, but plenty fast enough to keep up with the big boys! ;D

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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2006, 06:24:30 PM »
I'd go with the 400 and hop it up a little if it won't keep up with the 750 ;), my wife can't touch the ground on my 550 and she is about 5'3" with a short inseam.  I plan on a 400 if/when I get her her own bike.

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2006, 07:07:18 PM »
My wife is barely 5' 2" and right about 100lbs. She has been around bikes all her life but never ridden one herself. She loves our CB 550. She spent several days putting around our hick little town getting used to it and hit the open road for the first time Sunday. Can't keep her off it now. She suggested we ride the bikes into town last night for dinner, so we did. Probably will spend most of the weekend riding. It's been really windy here lately and she has has been able to handle it well. Plus, she looks killer on it!  ;D Good luck finding a bike!

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2006, 07:12:11 PM »
"Flying lessons years ago"
I used to love to slip the plane to loose altitude fast on my landings.
That means turn the airplane sideways.   VERY Fast Drop!     It's a real cool feeling.

My instructor said at the time, "Don't ever do this with your wife if you want her to fly with you in the future."

You need to tread lightly here........
1st:  I know this ones going to hurt. you personally Cheepo, but ...BUY her a motorcycle riding course. Let someone else teach her without all the yelling and such. They will teach her on a 250, would be my guess.

2nd Watch her at the end of class and see what you truly think she can handle. I built my wife a 350 and it fits exactly right.

It goes like crap, but she rides it like a golf cart, but it is light and maneuverable for her now.  It will be some time before my consideration is her keeping up with the 750. ..........in time I hope.

For now I'm just glad she is still keen to try. ;D

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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2006, 07:24:53 PM »
Loved to sideslip too!!  I called into a small provincial airport, slipped it on finals to land, and the controller chewed me out, he had never seen it done before and had his finger on the crash button waiting for me to dig it in..   :o
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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2006, 07:33:18 PM »
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We went to a riders course and most folks were on 80's CB125s. I think that was just right for my wife, but I don't know how it would be in traffic. Dunno about the 400. That would be great if you can find one. They seem to be getting rarer unless you want to pony up the cash for it. My Cb550 is too heavy for my wife. She would be fine once it's going, but it may be uncomfortable for her at slow speed and stoplights.
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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2006, 07:35:19 PM »
I think the ninja 250 would do well but she would not like the seating postion. I like it because it has plenty of zip and rip to keep up with the best of them. I may start her on something like that and then have her pick her own..

I would love to put her on a 400F but there is not exactly alot of them around. I need a bike that couls be dumped and not cry about and a 400f definitely does not fit this.
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2006, 11:58:32 PM »
I put her on back once and broke her of the habit. Now I can ride solo. Ever seen that T shirt that starts off "if you can read this shirt....".
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2006, 12:15:00 AM »
Tom, Ever think about a Rebel? its a twin, either 400 or 450, not sure, but good bikes, I had a friend who had one and she was 4 11, 80 pounds drenched.

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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2006, 01:30:08 AM »
An early to mid eighties Nighthawk 450 or 550 might work well.  Usually pretty easy to find and not very expensive. 

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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2006, 06:12:17 AM »
Tom-

I second the riding course. I found out very quickly that I don't have what it takes to teach someone how to ride a motorcycle. My wife liked the class and the fact that our instructor was a woman helped put her at ease. (She really wanted to learn how to ride, but was really scared at first) I personally recommend the Harley course. You can argue it's part of their marketing arm, but it's 2 days of classroom instruction and 2 days of on-bike practice and it's geared for those who have never sat on a bike before. Plus, they keep you in small groups of 6 so there is more time for one-on-one instruction if anyone needs it and you are on new (or fairly new) Buell Blasts. It's a 500cc thumper which shakes like any good Harley product :).

The local community college courses run by the state (in Michigan) are only $25, but they are large groups and they teach you on beat-up bikes. Also, they are only a couple days, so unless you learn fast or already have bike experience it will likely be intimidating for someone who's never ridden before.

One other piece of advice that Linda (Smithrelo on this board) gave me is that when you two ride together, let her lead. If she follows behind you all the time, she'll get used to watching you rather than looking around for road hazards. If she's leading that will give her practice keeping her eyes moving.

As for bikes, when you're looking around have her involved with the process. Have her sit on the prospective bike and see if it's comfortable for her. My wife is only an inch taller that yours. We first looked at the Honda Rebel (CMX250) and while it's a nice, cheap little bike we felt we could do better used. Rebels are hard to find used as a lot of folks seems too attached to them to let them go after getting another bigger bike. We found a mint Honda CB360T and it fit the bill. It's light and easy to handle and she could practically put her feet flat on the ground with no modification. I found a shaved seat for it on eBay (as the original seat had a few small tears in it) and it was perfect. She cut her teeth with it for a summer and she got more and more sure of herself riding. I had to go easy with my 750, but once she learned it was OK to let it wind up it could zip right along. The only issue with the 360 is that all the power lives up at high RPM. Plus, despite being a Honda, the 360 is a prallel twin, so it still vibrates a bit and after a long trip, her hands would be almost numb.

This year, time to upgrade. She wanted a 4 cylinder for it's smoooooth running quality and with the 750/4 being too heavy and a 350/4 being scarce the 500/550 seemed like the way to go. I located one from a board member (chemmy) and she loves it. Although a bigger bike, she finds it easier to ride and finds it a better balanced motorcycle. It's a bit tall for her and when stopped she's on her tiptoes. I need to get the seat cut down a bit (It has a few tears that need repairing anyway) but the only real issue with her being on her toes is wrangling the bike around to park it. But, the 550 has more lowering options than the 360.

So, that's the story of what we went through. Hope it lends you some insight. Good luck!
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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2006, 07:21:01 AM »
Just jumping on the school bandwagon... I've got a bud at work who's been riding for years.  His wife never showed any interest even at riding on the back.  Well, he bought himself a new Honda 750 a couple years ago, don't remember the model but it was Harley clone and a pretty sweet machine.  Well, she liked the bike so well, that instead of riding with him, she went out and enrolled herself in the local MSF course.  Learned all the fundamentals on a small bike, got comfortable with all the basics and then "borrowed" a midsize bike to get her license.  (Guess she didn't want to borrow the hubby's)  After she got her license, then she rode his for the first time.  He was real impressed, says she's a better rider in a lot of ways than he is and didn't have to make as many mistakes to get there.  Besides, there was a lot less stress at home without his trying to teach her.  Bottom line is, after her riding his bike half the time for about 4 months, she hauled his butt out to the dealers to look at new bikes and she used her money to buy a new 1400, for him!  She gladly took the 750 and the two of them are riding fools now.

If only this would work with my wife... I bought her a little CB125 when we were first married (back when them suckers were almost new)  She loved it till the 2nd time she rode it, some kid ran in front of her and she got the clutch and brake confused and never rode it again.  Guess she just never gave it a chance.
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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2006, 08:11:32 AM »
Do you want something for her to learn on or put her off riding?
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2006, 09:26:18 AM »
The (relative) scarcity of the 400F would prelude me for going that route.

I am in the same boat as you, trying to find a good learner bike for the GF that will not scare her, and can still get out of it's own way.  She's kinda tall, but not very confident, despite having an MSF course (it was about 6 months ago and she hasn't ridden since).

I am actually looking to get her a 350 Twin.  The smallblock Chevy of the bike world.  Honda built a zillion of them, they're cheap, reliable, fast enough and parts are so plentiful, if she drops it or whatever, I can laugh it off and fix it.

Hell, I want a 350 Twin for myself to modify into a road burner.  Hondaman gave some tips in the Other Bikes section that will let the little 350 run to 11,000 RPM and make it faster than a 400F!


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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2006, 10:47:24 AM »
i started out as a teenager on a 73 rd 350 yamaha it was small agile and very fast would be good for a starter for anyone i would think
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2006, 11:40:22 AM »
Sick of riding by myself.... I would like her to ride with. I believe she deserves to ride her own bike just the same.

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Re: Some input, a bike for the wife.
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2006, 12:40:01 PM »
Bought the wife a 350F.

Ditto on the riding course I did that and it worked well.

Ditto on her riding in front. Gets them looking and lets them set the pace.

Be prepared to get her something bigger later but the 350 is a good bike.

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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2006, 02:17:50 PM »
I find that all too often it's not the bike but the boyfriend/husban who kills it for women. They view the whole thing differently than men. They don't care about power or the whole macho thing.
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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2006, 08:21:45 PM »
Hey EC, think your wife would dig the Honda CB 1?  I've always thought this would be the perfect ride for a lady rider.. 



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« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2006, 09:58:42 PM »
A friend of mine has a Ninja 250.  I have ridden it several times.  I am 6'1" and about 260 pounds.  Let me tell you, I couldn't believe this was a 250!  They have changed in the last 30 years.  This thing will have NO problem "keeping up".  You may be surprised if you have trouble keeping up with her!

It is liquid cooled, light and redlines at 14,000 RPM.  The seating position is just a slight forward feel as compared to a 550, but definately not like a crotch rocket.  They are only $2999 new and are a steal for that price.  I hate to say this on a Honda related site, but they make the nighthawk or silly looking rebel feel like a scooter.  Take a spin to your local Kawasaki dealer and let her sit on one.  And bring your checkbook because she will want one for sure.
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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2006, 10:02:45 PM »
A friend of mine has a Ninja 250.  I have ridden it several times.  I am 6'1" and about 260 pounds.  Let me tell you, I couldn't believe this was a 250!  They have changed in the last 30 years.  This thing will have NO problem "keeping up".  You may be surprised if you have trouble keeping up with her!

It is liquid cooled, light and redlines at 14,000 RPM.  The seating position is just a slight forward feel as compared to a 550, but definately not like a crotch rocket.  They are only $2999 new and are a steal for that price.  I hate to say this on a Honda related site, but they make the nighthawk or silly looking rebel feel like a scooter.  Take a spin to your local Kawasaki dealer and let her sit on one.  And bring your checkbook because she will want one for sure.

Yep, that about sums that bike up. Funny in CA I had one for a bit. Had a buddy of mine on the back and we were clickin off at about 115 on the highway. The cop was so busy laughing and being amazed as we were out running his Harley that he made the ticket for 10 over  ::)

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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2006, 01:06:52 AM »
A bike for the Wife.  Sounds like a fair trade to me  :D :D :D ::) ::)

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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2006, 04:36:32 PM »
My woman is 5' 10" and has legs. I just taught her to ride last summer. She rides a 250 rebel.

Ok now the scoop. The rebel will do 65 with my tonnage on it. I weight 225. You put on your woman at around 100 - 120 or so and unless you hit 80, she will keep up. Rememember, she will probably not hit the gas hard for the first year. She will tool along slowly and probably drive you nuts with going so slow, but if you want her to keep riding, you have to let her learn at her pace, not yours.

A smaller bike is always easier to learn on than a big bike. they are lighter and shorter and that is the most important thing for a beginner. A beginner does not need power or high speed.

After she learns, then get her something bigger. I would also say newer as she will probably ride WITHOUT your along sooner or later and unless she knows how to wrench, A newer bike will be better for a beginner, especially a woman. I say this because most women do not learn to wrench.

As I said, my woman is 5'10 and she feels the rebel is a perfect fit for her. AS she gets more experienced, that will change or course but she is still learning and besides, a smaller bike is less likely to hurt you as much as a bigger bike.

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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2006, 04:55:42 PM »
It appeasr that we may become a multi bike household so to speak. Looking at a Goldwing, and keeping the 750 plus a bike for her.