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Offline jaguar

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Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« on: January 30, 2012, 04:28:07 AM »
I thought that it was talked about a bit here but cant seem to find the info.
What is the info/part number/application of the mag used on a ARD?  I have a chance to get an early drive set up that is complete save the actual magneto.  I seem to remember guys talking about tractor fairbanks or morris mags and using them.  is this true?
I would assume that things like shaft length would come into play.  also alot of the ones i see are single cylinders, can the cap be changed to run four?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercury-outboard-Fairbanks-magneto-racing-pleasure-/110816895889?hash=item19cd33a391&item=110816895889&pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1156

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fairbanks-Morse-magneto-ignition-generator-CW-type-30-mfd-Y-73-8-/220928770194?hash=item3370618092&item=220928770194&pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1156

My thought was that i could take the drive and a $200 mag and have a nice set up with out spending a grand for a used set up
thanks so much for any help

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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 05:46:12 AM »
it looks like to could  take the housing of the ARD with the drive pulleys and you should be set
But thats a big assumption
I had one but didn't have all the parts to make it work
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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 03:03:52 PM »
 Jaguar , i have one , Fairbanks Morse (used on some 4 cyl  tractors ) dont know part number of em ,(nothing on em ) just that it has short tapered shaft,an pulley to suit
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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 03:22:01 PM »
You must be able to do a search, there has been a lot of torque on here about them. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 06:56:11 PM »
Hey Jaguar. I have heard discussion that it may be a FM-J4B or a FM-K4B magneto. I do know that fairbanks was not the only one used though. If I have a chance I'll try to pull mine tomorrow and give it a lookey see and let you know what I find. Need to know myself cause I broke the plastic cover.
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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 07:23:44 PM »
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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 09:34:19 PM »
VW was used on some other drives. The midget car guys used one that drove a VW or volvo dist/mag  and a hilborn fuel pump to drive the FI.  It stuck out vertical from the point area.
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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 09:47:49 PM »
The old style was a Fairbanks Morse used on Ford tractors

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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 10:01:05 PM »
I think my old lincoln pipeliner welder had one on it's continental engine too. worked great until a shop mechanic changed out the ignition switch and fed it 12V.
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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 06:25:20 AM »
I have searched around here and never gotten a final answer.
I should have the set up minus the mag this weekend and should be able to start taking pictures and measurements.
It seems that a few people have these and could use a mag to make everything work.

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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 10:04:37 PM »
You could check with http://www.huntmagnetos.com/  for Fairbanks Morse parts

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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 01:24:42 PM »
 Any and everything you will need for the older magneto's bar none !

   http://www.magnetoparts.com/index.html


 And if you need belts and pulley's,  this is the best place to get them............

    http://shop.polybelt.com/XL025-1-4-Wide-Belt_c45.htm
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Re: Question about the actual magneto on a ARD mag
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2012, 06:13:36 PM »
Hey I wasn't able to find a model number on that mag. I know its a FM cause it us marked on the cover but that is all I found.
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