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Anyone mount their seat like this?
« on: February 14, 2012, 04:52:52 PM »
http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=22762.0

Scroll to the buttom of the thread. I am wondering if anyone used this method when mounting their aftermarket seat?
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Re: Anyone mount their seat like this?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 05:31:59 PM »
I think it's gonna depend on seat material/quality... And the weight of the rider... With a fiberglass seat sitting on 4 posts is gonna put a lot of stress on four small spots. What I did was use 2 pieces of aluminum 4" wide bent to act like a raised platform and attached with a couple of tek screws to the frame. Add a couple pieces of foam rubber, and 3 more tek screws to attach the seat to the aluminum and viola. Oh, I did Velcro the seat pad to the seat though... A must if ya wanna get the seat off...

As you can see I #$%*ed up the rear most platform and it's currently shimmed till I make another... But about 4k miles and no problems...


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Re: Anyone mount their seat like this?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 05:36:58 PM »
AH I think this is what Stev-o was stating.... How high is the fold? Where did you get the aluminum? I was thinking of using the industrial velcro for the seat pad to the actual ABS seat I have.
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Re: Anyone mount their seat like this?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 05:38:29 PM »
Hey Tews19!

It doesn't take much to hold a seat, just look at the originals..

I haven't done that specifically but it would work assuming the seat pad was somehow installed over and removable so you can get to the screw heads.  The option you linked is great if the nuts are tack welded to the struts.  But then again, with either machine screws or bolts, you could skip welding struts in place.  Instead, epoxy the screws/bolts so they are firmly fastened to the seatbase and then you have just the threaded portion protruding below. If the screws/bolts are fixed, then the nuts obviously are not.  That's OK, just do not over tighten the nuts so you break the screws/bolts free.  You could even use wing nuts if you think it would help servicing.

The Honda 4s all have a sturdy hinge setup, so why not use that?  It makes some service work easier.  One easy way is to take some tubing of appropriate inside diameter that the hinge pin can work, stick it to the underside of the seat pan with JB Weld, epoxy or whatever, and go for it.  Of course this assumes you will either use the original latch or replace it with a homespun alternative, all of which is 'do-able' with a little ingenuity.  If you have a bolt protruding from the bottom of the seat pan on the other side from the hinge, so it lands just inside a frame tube, you could use a wrap of 'plumbers tape' on the frame, drilled for the bolt, lock washer & wingnut, you're done.  Plumbers tape is that strapping you get for hanging pipes from a ceiling, it's drilled every 1/2 inch or so with varying sizes of holes that can be drilled out if need be.    Or you could make a strap out of light aluminum, drilled at each end, wrap it around the frame tube.

If the seat is only attached on the hinge and corresponding lock point on the other side, and the seat pan is otherwise flat, it may tend to move a bit.  You can stick a few blocks of scrap plastic onto the seat pan tight to the inside face outer frame tubes, with JB weld or epoxy.  They will work as stops so the seat can't wander around.

That's what I did with a few 'TT' style seats I made from fibreglass as a kid and it worked well even on my motocross bike that got pounded all day and dropped every now and then.
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Re: Anyone mount their seat like this?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 06:20:59 PM »
AH I think this is what Stev-o was stating.... How high is the fold? Where did you get the aluminum? I was thinking of using the industrial velcro for the seat pad to the actual ABS seat I have.

I can't remember the exact measurements... Something like 1/2" in the front and 3/4 in the back. But it gonna depend on the shape of the seat. My seat (carpys rocket four) is sloped front to back and slightly domed side to side. I used the industrial Velcro and it works great for the pad. But my pad is as hillbilly as it gets. Soon it'll get swapped for a button on cover, when I can afford to have one made...

The aluminum came in 12"x4" sheets at ace. I just grabbed two of the thickest and bent em with my vice and a rubber mallet

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Re: Anyone mount their seat like this?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 06:45:27 PM »
AH I think this is what Stev-o was stating.... How high is the fold? Where did you get the aluminum? I was thinking of using the industrial velcro for the seat pad to the actual ABS seat I have.

I can't remember the exact measurements... Something like 1/2" in the front and 3/4 in the back. But it gonna depend on the shape of the seat. My seat (carpys rocket four) is sloped front to back and slightly domed side to side. I used the industrial Velcro and it works great for the pad. But my pad is as hillbilly as it gets. Soon it'll get swapped for a button on cover, when I can afford to have one made...

The aluminum came in 12"x4" sheets at ace. I just grabbed two of the thickest and bent em with my vice and a rubber mallet

Thanks for the info, I will hit up Ace tomorrow. They know me by now as I keep going for little stuff here and there.
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Re: Anyone mount their seat like this?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 07:54:36 PM »
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Re: Anyone mount their seat like this?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 08:13:18 PM »
  DOMER, WHAT IS THAT GREEN THING BEHIND your bike.....??

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Re: Anyone mount their seat like this?
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 10:18:00 PM »
Compressor tank #1... It has a killer setup that now also feeds a 400+ gal reserve tank that resides in the backyard... my dad is like a mad scientist version of Tim Allen, and I'm lucky enough to rent his house + a portion of the garage :)