Author Topic: wrenchmonkees.com's club black cb750 (Read 10555 times)

andy750 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2012, 12:26:41 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on February 20, 2012, 12:19:53 PM

If you "Boutique Bikers" want to risk life and limb for the sake of looking "cool" while gazing at your own reflection in the windows at your local shopping mall where most of your riding is done I won't stop you, but over here we've got plenty of more challenging roads, so intelligent tire profiles are much more appropriate.

Good reply

754 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:59:18 PM »

Some people have trouble straying from their Ricky RoadRacer personna (maybe real, maybe imagined) long enough to accept that there are other types of riding out there,

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:15:53 PM »

Quote from: 754 on February 20, 2012, 06:59:18 PM

Some people have trouble straying from their Ricky RoadRacer personna (maybe real, maybe imagined) long enough to accept that there are other types of riding out there,

I don't think thats the point at all Frank, these bikes are built to perform to a standard { which is a lot higher than some think}, some of us like that and its not that hard to ride within the limits of the bike without being a fool or "Ricky racer" as you put it. Those tires are for looks and handle like crap so as far as i am concerned you are more likely to crash using those #$%*ty tires than the way i ride. I have had 1 accident in 32 years riding on the road and it was some idiot in a cage in the rain took me out and didn't stop. And coincidently, i once had a CB450 twin with a Firestone rear tire with that silly profile and straight tread pattern and it would slide everywhere and track every line in the road, in the rain it was plain deadly, it also made the bike feel like it was falling into corners, without doubt the worst tire i have ever ridden on. If you know anything at all about tires, one look at those things will tell you all you need to know mate......

Vbled1 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:40:49 PM »

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #29 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:55:19 PM »

Quote from: Vbled1 on February 20, 2012, 10:40:49 PM

Honestly if those tires were the death traps you are implying, they wouldnt be on the market. After all the deaths and injuries there would be lawsuits and test, and the tires would be pulled. You act like this stuff isnt regulated. And 754 is dead on.

Like all tires they are speed rated {low} in fact, they use to have raised lettering on them stating "not for road use" or "not for highway use".... They haven't been remanufactured for normal street use, they were made for restorers and the like. Most guys that use them , are, as Terry calls them, Posers, that put them on for show... I have googled them plenty of times and found one builder that had a customer that just had to have them for the look, as soon as he realized they way they handled he asked the guy to take them off..... If you are a half decent rider you will find their limitations within the first couple of blocks..... I doesn't surprise me that they are on the market in a country where it is perfectly legal to ride a bike with no front brakes, also a death trap.....

Vbled1 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:31:21 PM »

750K · « **Reply #31 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:36:31 PM »

Quote from: Retro Rocket on February 20, 2012, 10:55:19 PM

Quote from: Vbled1 on February 20, 2012, 10:40:49 PM
Honestly if those tires were the death traps you are implying, they wouldnt be on the market. After all the deaths and injuries there would be lawsuits and test, and the tires would be pulled. You act like this stuff isnt regulated. And 754 is dead on.

It doesn't surprise me that they are on the market in a country where it is perfectly legal to ride a bike with no front brakes, also a death trap.....

I feel the same way about friends riding in an open face novelty helmet thinking its going to save their brains in a crash. In my province as long as it covers your head it's legal to ride in, hell a turban is legal as a helmet if you're of the Sikh religion...

dave500 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:46:48 PM »

we use ned kelly martini rifle bullet proof helmets,but with good tyres though.

Lostboy Steve · « **Reply #33 on:** February 21, 2012, 01:58:23 PM »

I mean back in the day what did an early 750 come with? Those tires in present day would be looked at like huge pieces of #$%*, yet people road on em for countless of miles and all types of terrain. I know guys with Harleys that run what appears to be a Coker car tire on the back and they rip around like no-ones business on and off the highway. Not saying I would do it, but it does look cool and they seem to handle it.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2012, 03:09:31 PM »

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We have seen these tires in use at Bonneville and observed failures in the 115-120 MPH range. As a result there is a rule proposal on the table to ban the use of Coker repica automobile and motorcycle tires in SCTA competition.

That was in 2004, Coker clearly state on their site that these tires are for older restorations, nowhere on their site or in any searches i have done is there any rated specifications for these tires, all show, no go....

754 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 21, 2012, 03:40:16 PM »

So have you ridden on these tires, actually tried them ? Do you think everyone exceeds the speed rating..
What bothers you more, an oversize cafe tank, that never uses its range, or a tire that has limited lean angle, but works within the lean angle the bike, by design, is limited to?

Vbled1 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 21, 2012, 03:49:45 PM »

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #37 on:** February 21, 2012, 06:28:08 PM »

Quote from: 754 on February 21, 2012, 03:40:16 PM

So have you ridden on these tires, actually tried them ? Do you think everyone exceeds the speed rating..
What bothers you more, an oversize cafe tank, that never uses its range, or a tire that has limited lean angle, but works within the lean angle the bike, by design, is limited to?

The tank isn't a safety issue Frank, and if you read my recent replies you would know that i have indeed had them on the back of a CB450.

scunny · « **Reply #38 on:** February 21, 2012, 07:57:10 PM »

bugger, I have to go to work now. subscribed.

Van-van · « **Reply #39 on:** February 21, 2012, 08:45:58 PM »

"...display and decoration...not meant to be ridden...purely cosmetic..."

http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2010/4/21/wrenchmonkees-club-black.html

These guys know what they're doing. Their personal rides are great.

This thread has gone moot. But the Dunlops do look good...

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Christienne_O · « **Reply #40 on:** July 04, 2012, 03:29:08 AM »

I really like the aesthetics, but I cannot help but think that this bike would have utility only unless you wanted to go in a straight line and never turn. Of course I have no rational reason for saying this, it just seems intuitive. Maybe I am wrong. But, I really love that triple tree/fork tube combination. I think that I read that WrenchMonkees fabricated the triple tree themselves, but what kind of fork tubes do you think those are?

lucky · « **Reply #41 on:** July 04, 2012, 06:54:32 AM »

"wrench monkeys" is right.

I will never understand whitewalls on a motorcycle.
I do not think car tires belong on a motorcycle.
I do not like motorcycle seats that look like ironing boards.

crazypj · « **Reply #42 on:** July 04, 2012, 08:31:17 AM »

The bikes may be rideable but you sure as hell won't go far with oil tank in seat hump (or rear of gas tank as some are being done)
You'll probably have to stop well before oil gets up to temp, at running temp it's going to cause real problems (over 200f)

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #43 on:** July 06, 2012, 01:16:11 AM »

Quote from: Christienne_O on July 04, 2012, 03:29:08 AM

I really like the aesthetics, but I cannot help but think that this bike would have utility only unless you wanted to go in a straight line and never turn. Of course I have no rational reason for saying this, it just seems intuitive. Maybe I am wrong. But, I really love that triple tree/fork tube combination. I think that I read that WrenchMonkees fabricated the triple tree themselves, but what kind of fork tubes do you think those are?

G'Day Mate, I'm guessing that the forks themselves are late 1980's/early 1990's Japanese forks. Anything from a CBR/ZZR/FZR or GSXR from that period will work fine. Cheers, Terry.

xsmooth69x · « **Reply #44 on:** July 06, 2012, 02:07:58 AM »

im going to have to the poopy one and say i hate those rims lol. i bet they are heavy

754 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 06, 2012, 06:25:09 AM »

They were using H-D 37mm or 39mm legs on the one 750. As for the oil not being able to cool, being out of the "warmairstream".. i rather doubt that.

crazypj · « **Reply #46 on:** July 06, 2012, 07:14:00 AM »

Average shower temp is about 140f, normal oil temp is 200+ so any water can boil off (it evaporates at lower temps)
Your going to get pretty well toasted arse with 200+ oil temp

Christoffer.Martensson · « **Reply #47 on:** July 06, 2012, 08:13:25 AM »

I've made a cooperation with the Wrenchmonkees a couple of month ago!
They really take care of the performance and feeling of every bike.

The "Club Black" were made for a club named Club Black.
They are not runners and never will be, they are just built for the estethics and I think that all of them sits in their shop, at least some one were doing that when i visited them the last time.

WM just came back from a "Euro trip" down through Europe were they drove their own bikes and some customers of them also attended the trip. The first days they were driving in constant rain but that didn't stop them from continue.
There will be a film about it on their blog soon also.

So the bikes are definitely goers, not just show. They are built to run!

I hope that I don't said something that I shouldn't, bit I seriously doubt it!

I think that they are attending the "Berlin wall run" right now by the way!

Cheers/Christoffer

754 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 08, 2012, 02:44:01 PM »

I dont think isolating 200 degrees of oil temperature.. is even REMOTELY near the challenge of isolating the heat of an undertail exhaust.. and that is done all the time..
No trying new things = nothing moves forward... just the way it is...

Trevdawg · « **Reply #49 on:** July 08, 2012, 03:34:11 PM »

I'm still new but if they put an oil tank in the rear. Is there still room for a battery there as well? If not, where do they put the battery. I didn't see it in any of the pictures about the build.

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Author Topic: wrenchmonkees.com's club black cb750 (Read 10555 times)