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'66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« on: February 21, 2012, 02:22:06 PM »
A guy brought one of these to the shop and evidently it "just needs the cam chain replaced." I don't know anything about these bikes so I thought I'd ask here before I agree to take it on as a project (top-end rebuild, at the very least).

Are parts readily available for these? Any notorious issues? Complete pain to work on?
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Re: '66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 02:57:49 PM »
I bought one new in '66.
Beautiful bike--I'd say the best looking Honda being offered that year.
Not really an off road machine in spite of the scrambling appearance.
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Re: '66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 07:33:25 PM »
Had one Exactly like it back in 72'...it just wasn't as nice looking as yours. ;)
Tugboat, I've learned that HondaMan has lot's of Tech & personal experience w/ what you need..try to PM him.
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Re: '66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 09:50:53 AM »
 Oldscrambler on here..Dennis specializes in them...
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Re: '66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 11:39:35 PM »
Had a chance at one garaged for 20 years at my aunt's but her inlaws had first dibs and it disappeared a few years ago.
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Re: '66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 08:42:53 PM »
Not too bad to work on. The motor has to come out for head work because it's a stressed member in the frame. It's not hard to get out once you get the nuts unstuck.
The camchain may be available from Honda, it's pretty basic. They are usually on ebay anyway. The tensioner is a big bakelite wheel, it might be damaged, I wonder why the owner has decided a new chain is required?
Of course it's an endless chain. I would rivet a replacement in.
The bottom end is pretty easy, the crank is on ball and roller bearings so there's no bearing shells to keep track of. You can not practically replace the centre crank bearing(s). You may know someone who can pull it apart and press it together again (this is another lost art) but the bearings will be a chore to find... and a used crank would probably be fine if yours has toasted bearings.
Problem areas? hmm. The points shaft goes through half the cam and if tt gets sloppy in its bushings then the spark timing gets unstable. The oil filter tends to be ignored, once it's full you don't have any filtering and things like that wear rather quickly.
The transmission shift forks wear on the tips, and can bend with brutal shifting - this gives you more than the stock number of neutrals plus slipping out of gear under power.
The primary chain breaks on occasion, usually without catastrophic damage (ie exploded cases). This is probably exacerbated by dirty oil as well, it's worth checking if you're in there and replacing if it's really worn out - they will gouge the cover when stretched. Unfortunately this is a weird chain and is unavailable new, you might find a used one less stretched out if yours is unusable though.
There are several excellent web sites on these bikes, and a lot of parts on ebay. Try to get parts from the same model year if you can, there were quite a few changes over the run. There's a fair bit of NOS stuff still around but the prices are nasty. You can get some repro parts but not as much as for a CB750.

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Re: '66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 09:03:00 PM »
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Re: '66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2012, 07:59:34 AM »
Are parts readily available for these? Any notorious issues? Complete pain to work on?
Try this site for OEM and repro parts and advice. Tim's a very knowledgeable guy and eager to help.

http://www.classichondarestoration.com/index.php

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Re: '66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 08:20:17 AM »
i have a 77 vith a 72 engine..still look to get thac cam aut...but....hell..how... have to glass blast the top and cilender..

the photo of the fine cb are not mine,,just to shov the end resultat

the european cb 77 have a different back fender,,or atleast holland and denmark modells..cms.nl have that ekstra part..to bolt on

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i kan not speak english/but trying!!
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Re: '66 CB77: What's the deal with these things?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 09:54:36 PM »
They are Very Nice Classic Bikes strynboen, I had a 1966' CL77 305cc when I was 16 as my first full "Road Bike"...It felt like a Harley to me at that time !  ;D
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