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Have you ever got your parts back from the plater and picked up a washer and wondered where it was used?  There are approximately 350 washers (flat, lock, special) on a CB750.  About 125 of those are the 6mm (94101-06000) & 8mm (94101-08000) thin (Form B) flat washers.  Even these washers are somewhat special.  The standard 6mm & 8mm washer that you can buy in the US are twice as thick.  Anyway, the remaining 225 or so is made up of over 40 different sizes and shapes, some there are only one of.

A few years back, on my first restoration, I didn’t pay much attention when I took apart the bike and threw all the parts in a can for plating.  When I got them back it was the washers that drove me the craziest.  I actually bought one of many of the different sizes just so I could identify what was what.  It was then that I started putting all the size info on a spreadsheet so I could easily identify each part.  I have since paid closer attention to where the parts came from and did a sheet for screws, nuts and pins & spacers.  By the way, there are approximately 450 screws, 120 nuts and 100 pins & spacers.

Not all of these pieces are plated.  And some of them I don’t bother plating when I can buy them, especially in bulk like the 6mm & 8mm washers.  But some of the washers, larger nuts, spacers, etc., are hard or impossible to find or they are expensive to buy individually and replating makes sense.  In any case, these spreadsheets have been helpful for me and I decided to post them because they might be helpful for someone else.

Now a disclaimer: I tried to make them as accurate as possible but I still occasionally find a mistake, so use them at your own risk.  They will be the most helpful for restorations, especially sandcasts as most of the info came from two early sandcasts, one that had been worked on with missing parts and the other pretty complete and original.  I know that some of the parts are different on other sandcasts and especially later models, for instance some of the screw lengths are different on the K0 valve cover.  I always make sure there is adequate length and that the screws aren’t bottoming out in the holes when reassembling. 

That said there is still plenty of good info there for early K models too.  For example, if you want to compile a list of all the cross-type cap screws to change them to socket heads, this would be a good place to start.  Or if you have a bit you can’t identify you should be able to find it.  I also use them to keep track of what I have so I can figure out what I need to buy.

I tried to list substitutes where possible, superseded parts, where they’re used and other notes so they got kinda large.  That’s not a problem for me because I have a printer that can print on 11” x 17” paper but once you copy them you can change them to suit your needs.

I will try to keep them up to date and add info when I can.  If you see a mistake or have some info to add please let me know and I will make updates.  Hopefully they will be helpful for some one.
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 07:50:30 am »
This is very, very usefull!

Thanks for sharing!



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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 09:04:52 am »
Warning: Anal Alert!

Have you ever got your parts back from the plater and picked up a washer and wondered where it was used?  There are approximately 350 washers (flat, lock, special) on a CB750.  About 125 of those are the 6mm (94101-06000) & 8mm (94101-08000) thin (Form B) flat washers.  Even these washers are somewhat special.  The standard 6mm & 8mm washer that you can buy in the US are twice as thick.  Anyway, the remaining 225 or so is made up of over 40 different sizes and shapes, some there are only one of.


Thanks for sharing your hard work Mark!  For those of us obsessed with correctness this information is very helpful!
You're right, washers may be the most frustrating part.  Makes you wonder how they managed to get it all right on the assembly line in the pre-computer age!
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 06:18:04 pm »
It is great that you post your work.

20 years ago plating was a good deal as new screws and bolts were more than the $30 plating. Also, they didn't make big #8 bolts anymore.

I used to sort all the plated parts as per diameter/length using a mm ruler and then bag the sizes.

Good luck on the restoration.

The part manual is a great place to find the bolt/nut size when assembling the bike. The exploded views are very helpful.

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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 07:18:35 pm »
Thanks very much.  Wish I had this a few weeks ago.  I laid out all my parts in subsections and itemized as I went in a notebook before I sent the parts out.




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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2012, 10:32:40 am »
Wow!  This must have taken ages.  I just don't think I have that kind of discipline to write something up like this.

Came in handy today.  Thanks
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2012, 10:41:22 am »
Thank you for your analness;) No very useful thanks for sharing!
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2012, 01:16:30 pm »
Wow!  This must have taken ages. 
I've been compiling it for several years but the total time wasn't too bad.  The hard part was remembering to record it as I was taking stuff apart.  Im just glad it's helpful to someone else.
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2013, 02:09:31 pm »
I added my bearing spreadsheet.  It has cross references to different manufacturers and includes the needle bearings for the primary sprocket.  I got a lot of it from sources on the forum and just compiled it in one place.  If you see any errors please let me know.  Use at your own risk.  I hope it helps.
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2013, 07:01:47 pm »
Looks like your done fishing and back to the bikes for the winter  ;) Thanks for sharing your hard work.

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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 10:11:44 pm »
Thanks, Mark! Great reference tool.  :D
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2013, 07:26:40 am »
Thank you!  Figuring out the correct bearings took me a while. 
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2013, 08:52:20 am »
Looks like your done fishing and back to the bikes for the winter  ;) Thanks for sharing your hard work.
I am.  I'm happy if this helps anyone.  It saves me from figuring it out every time too.  If you find any errors or anything to add please let me know and I will update them.
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2013, 12:20:44 pm »
I was going through the bearings to make a list for my project and I found a couple of mistakes.  I got the mainshaft bearings mixed up and changed the number on the left bearing on the final drive shaft.  I hope I didn’t cause any confusion.  I also added the Yamiya part numbers and their prices just for reference.
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2013, 03:47:55 pm »
Wow.  That's fantastic, thank you for sharing!  Remind me next time I'm in MN to buy you a beverage of your choosing.

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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2013, 12:34:38 pm »
For what it's worth, the Yamiya prices were cheaper that my local bearing supplier.
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2014, 09:57:25 pm »
Has anybody come up with a list like this for o rings?
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2014, 05:38:13 am »
That's a great idea.  I have a partial list.  If no one else has one it probably wouldn't take me long to finish one.
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2014, 08:43:07 am »
I've been using a reprinted parts list (which lists bolt & washer sizes & types) as I'm reassembling my sandy.  It's been very helpful!

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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2014, 03:54:50 am »
Is there anyway of restoring the lost spreadsheets?

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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2014, 04:37:55 am »
Is there anyway of restoring the lost spreadsheets?

They're still there, I just downloaded them myself. The files are "attached" and you have to click on the file name to get the option to "open" or "save".
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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2014, 05:06:13 am »
Thanks

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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2014, 05:51:31 am »
Thanks very much. Should come in useful

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Re: Sandcast & Early CB750K Fastener & Parts Spreadsheets (And Bearings)
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2016, 10:07:00 am »
Hey Markb,

Have there been any updates to the originally attached sheets since 2013?