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Spirit of Bunny

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Clymer or Haynes
« on: May 31, 2006, 08:18:17 AM »
starting resto/rebuild on my '78 550k and I was wondering what manual you find better. Any insights will be appreciated.

Here is what I'm dealing with my $250 find after a once over

carbs are off (not hooked up)
battery is dead
seat pan is cracked at lever
seat has non-stock cover
rear shocks look to be rusted and useless
front shocks are cracked, leaking fluid.
missing centerstnad
needs new rear tire
front tire is marginal
a couple of small screw holes were drilled into subframe
non-stock handlebar (clearance issues with throttle cables)
missing grip on left handlebar
surface rust on rear fender
headers heavily pitted with rust
non-stock exhaust taped up and jb welded to headers (unusable)
kickstand rubbing rear brake lever?
tank looks to have been kreemed
bad paint job on tank. rattle canned and cracking off under fingernail (oh no bondo!)
missing rearview mirrors
clocks look ok, but speedo has a couple of dents. need cleaning.
rt side cover has a missing tab and needs to be repainted.
engine is unknown. (was told it was running 4 months ago)

^^after all that, I'm thinking I should just part it out cause it looks like a lot of work.

pics are in the gallery if you want to check'em out

prsman23@hotmail.c

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Re: Clymer or Haynes
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2006, 09:03:37 AM »
It might seem overwhelming at first, but all of this can be done if you have patience and $. If you don't want to do the work why did you buy a $250 dollar bike? Not trying to be a jerk, but maybe you would have been better off buying a runner? Anyhoo, most of the stuff listed is pretty easy to fix, but you won't get it done in a day or a week, unless of course you spend a bunch of time.
So going down your list here are my thoughts
Carbs everyone has to deal with
The seat can possibly be fixed? Or buy another one off ebay
There are many OEM style replacements available
Rear shocks are found new or used, perhaps a junk yard, or evil bay
centerstands are nice to have but not neccessary, I use a motorcycle jack that I got from sears on sale for $70
Tires again are expensive, but you kind of need them to ride
you can get stock handle bars/ grips used cheap
Surface rust can be taken care of pretty easily with steel wool and some soap, or get a replacement
Exhaust isn't very cheap used or new, but can be had
you can adjust the brake lever, not too hard
tanks suck, but almost everyone has had to do some work to them
mirrors can be had pretty cheap on ebay, as can sidecovers
All of these jobs can look at one time to be overwhelming, but take them one at a time and with a little patience and some dough it can and will be done.

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Re: Clymer or Haynes
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2006, 09:05:24 AM »
Oh yeah I like the clymer better the haynes tries to cover too many bikes at once and gets annoying, but really having both or one and a honda service manual will get ya through just fine  ;)

Spirit of Bunny

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Re: Clymer or Haynes
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2006, 09:15:11 AM »
^^^thanks

never mind the grousing on my part. I will step up and have a go at it. I like a challenge as a matter of fact. I'm sure I'll be far more agreeable when its winter again and I can spend some good time in the garage. At times, it can be quite therapeutic working on my motorcycles.

I just hate to see these good bikes in the hands of someone unappreciative as I am.




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Re: Clymer or Haynes
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2006, 09:32:11 AM »
If I only had one manual to choose from your offerings I would choose option C: The Honda Shop manual.
I have them all.  Annoying Errors and omissions in the Clymer, holes in coverage in the Haynes.  I have old Chiltons, too. I do look into them on occasion to get that extra picture for better understanding of the area being worked on.

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Re: Clymer or Haynes
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2006, 09:34:52 AM »
As its a 78 the ONLY manual that covers the carbs is the official Honda with the supplements I have it on a CD in PDF format if you want a copy email me direct
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Offline crazypj

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Re: Clymer or Haynes
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2006, 09:38:09 AM »
Two Tired probably sums it up best, get the Honda one if possible, but it may be a bit outside your budget.
If you have very little or no experience, the Clymer is a walk through.
 The Haynes manuals assume you have slightly more than basic skills which is why they leave out some stuff (as does the Honda manual)
Personally I find the Clymer manuals too simplistic for my use.
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Re: Clymer or Haynes
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2006, 10:05:00 AM »
Here is the complete 500/550 Honda manual with all addendums

http://www.cryscom.nb.ca/PDF_Docs/CB500-550_Manual.pdf
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