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1975 CB400F New Owner /w some questions
« on: March 08, 2012, 11:54:50 AM »
So I purchased this 400F about a month ago. It ran, and I rode it around for a bit but it doesn't run that good. Here is a bad picture:
I notices a few issues. The first one is the front brake rubs, so I took apart the caliper and here is what I found:
I'm sure need a new piston right?

The second issue I noticed was that the bike kinda chuggs in the lower rpms. I looked took out all the plugs and noticed that plugs 1 and 4 look like this:
While on the other hand, plugs 2 and 3 look perfectly tan. I assumed that it was a ignition problem since it was both 1 and 4 and tried to adjust points and timing but the plugs still turned that black sooty color after I put new plugs in. So I impulsively took out the carbs and am "Cleaning/Rebuilding" them (and am overwhelmed). I already broke some o-rings inside the first carb (like the drain screw o-ring and the main jet o-ring. Which is a good o-ring/float gasket replacement?). If anyone can chime in any ideas, It would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: 1975 CB400F New Owner /w some questions
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 01:01:08 PM »
First of all, nice looking bike and congratulations and welcome to the SOHC4 forum!  Lots of 400f riders here so you're sure to get plenty of good advice. 

I'd say you probably want to get a new brake piston.  Once that hard chrome is eaten through it really doesn't clean up very well.   And replace the o-ring in the caliper (make sure to clean out groove!), and while you've got it apart make sure that the pivot arm moves freely on its shaft as it should, and may as well lube it up.  There are two o-rings, top and bottom, so make sure to replace those or don't loose them if they are in good shape.

Can't quite tell from the picture, but do you have a stock airbox?  Looks like maybe not.  Without it, it can be hard to tune carbs but it can be done.    As far as the chugging, what RPMs are we talking about?  These bikes like to rev and if kept in the lower RPM's you will most definitely carbon-foul the plugs and combustion chambers.  I have mine above 6-7k constantly.  But you're right, having 1 and 4 present like that would lead me to think perhaps a weak spark out of that coil.  Could be bad plug caps, points, wiring connections, etc.

There are just so many things to look at, though, so before I went too far with trouble shooting I'd go ahead and do a full 3000 mile tune-up.  valve adjustment, oil and filter change,  cam chain adjusted, timing rechecked and set with timing light, air filter cleaned/replaced, carbs cleaned and synchronized (since you're in there already).  Make sure to check your float levels in your carbs as well as all the air passages, and remove and clean the emulsifier tubes.  PM me your email and I'll send you a great step by step how-to for rebuilding cb400f carbs with pictures (courtesy Yahoo cb400f group). 

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Re: 1975 CB400F New Owner /w some questions
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 01:53:50 AM »
So I have the carbs open and cleaning them, but I ran into a little problem. When I try to put the needle jet back in, it doesn't stay in. Are you supposed to do something to make it stay in?

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Re: 1975 CB400F New Owner /w some questions
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 03:34:15 AM »
So I have the carbs open and cleaning them, but I ran into a little problem. When I try to put the needle jet back in, it doesn't stay in. Are you supposed to do something to make it stay in?


Pressure from the main jet and that goofy metal spring  hold the needle/emulsifier in place. Did you get O-ring kits to replace the dried, broken ones? Welcome to the forum...Larry

Member kevin400f makes a phenolic replacement piston for the brake, better and less expensive than stock.  BTW, nice bike.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2012, 03:36:42 AM by MoMo »

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Re: 1975 CB400F New Owner /w some questions
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 05:38:14 AM »
You can also get stainless brake pistons here http://www.charlies-place.com/PAGES/Store/store_brake_pistons.html
CB400F / 466 Build Thread (currently in progress)
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=105027.0