Topic: Clymer called, wants help with next book

[DaveInTexas]

Just kidding but I am feeling pretty hup about tonight's work. 
You will recall my post about the seized on oil filter cover - that bolt that would in no way move.  The hex end (12mm) had been worked over pretty good and even a good 6-sided socket was slipping.
But I got it off.  I used what is loosely referred to as a 'tool' by some and has the letters V and G in their name.  Hey c'mon, it was a desperate situation!  War Rules provide me immunity from your chastisement and punishments.! 
Anyway I 'bout tipped the bike over cranking this sucker off but it came.  It was not pretty.  Grown men were averting their eyes.
Got it all apart, cleaned and inspected, drained the oil per manual instructions, and woohoo the new filter looks perfect complete with new O rings from Walmart.  Before reinstalling, I took a hand file to the bolt head over 20 mins and worked it down to a tight 11mm fit.  Pretty good job (if you will allow me a moment of braggartness).  You know that feeling when you can turn a bad situation into a livable one.  That's me right now.  Yeah, up on that cloud.  So until I can replace the bolt I thought I would apply a thin coating of antiseize to the threads and reinstall with a reasonable level of torque.

Except I notice in the manual a "Filter Spring Seat".  WTF?  I did not see a FSS come out of mine and I was very careful.  My guess is it is long gone. 

What is your op. about a missing FSS?  A critical item?  An iinsignificant part?
Looks like a large area thin flat washer in the pics.  The old filter showed no signs of wear in this location. 

PS I got to find a better way to drain that $#%& oil tank.  How do you do it without soaking the brake stop switch, frame, pipes??

[Bob Wessner]

War Rules provide me immunity from your chastisement and punishments.! 

Whatever works, works, in my book. Glad to hear you conquered the thing.

The washer you are missing is quite thin.. and I might add, frequently missing.  They sometimes stick to the filter and go unnoticed, or drop into whatever you are draining the oil into and get lost. It provides a seat for the spring against the filter rubber core. Some folks have them missing permanently and seem not to have problems. If you can, at some time find a replacement.

I make a little aluminum foil shield to go from the tank outlet to below the pipes to drain the tank, I ran into the same problem you did at first. You can also disconnect the switch from the spring and move it out of the way.

[csendker]

Except I notice in the manual a "Filter Spring Seat".  

It's #6 on the attached exploded diagram.  Sure looks like a big 'ol washer to me.

PS I got to find a better way to drain that $#%& oil tank.

Get a 550, they're wet sump.    And I carry a set of VG's on the bike at all times.

[Terry in Australia]

Dave, it's just a 20mm ID x 30 mm OD alloy washer, I've used soft copper ones (50 cents from my local engineering shop) with no problems. You can buy a new 17mm head oil filter bolt from JC Whitney for about 12 bucks, from memory.

You'll need one next oil change mate, as that 11mm head will be just as hard to shift, because it's the cast flange hard up against the filter canister that makes it hard to get off, there's no hint of seizure at the threaded end as there's always oil present there. (or there'd want to be!) Cheers, Terry. 

[Tim.]

To reiterate - go buy an aftermarket oil filter bolt with a larger head.  You're gonna be glad you did.

[750goes]

When you open up the oil tank drain plug, put a funnel under it, and run it into a drum that sits about the same height, but make sure the funnell has a screen filter.
If the plug falls in the drum, you don't want to go searching for the plug at the bottom of the drum (magnet on a stick works good).

 

[Raul CB750K1]

Lost oil filter washer? When did I heard that for the last time?


Dèja-Vù...


Raul

[KB02]

...I got to find a better way to drain that $#%& oil tank.  How do you do it without soaking the brake stop switch, frame, pipes??

I use an old gallon milk jug cut in half. I tried a funnel like 750goes suggsted , but I didn't have one with as big a hole as the oil drain was. Made an even bigger mess when the funnel overflowed.    The milk jug works perfectly.

[MRieck]

Dave, it's just a 20mm ID x 30 mm OD alloy washer, I've used soft copper ones (50 cents from my local engineering shop) with no problems. You can buy a new 17mm head oil filter bolt from JC Whitney for about 12 bucks, from memory.

You'll need one next oil change mate, as that 11mm head will be just as hard to shift, because it's the cast flange hard up against the filter canister that makes it hard to get off, there's no hint of seizure at the threaded end as there's always oil present there. (or there'd want to be!) Cheers, Terry. 

...or he could buy one of your spin on filter adaptors Terry.

[GeoffT]

Lost oil filter washer? When did I heard that for the last time?


Dèja-Vù...


Raul

Didn't you just say that??