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Offline faux fiddy

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Another oil thread
« on: March 12, 2012, 11:33:12 AM »
I used fram filters before but I have never seen their oil until last week. I bought full synthetic 5w-30 for four bucks a quart, so I'm putting it in a 2000 Chevy Astro with 125k miles, first synthetic It's had. It had regular 3k oil changes all it's life until now, the oil in it is going on 5k or so.

I've heard synthetic can be too slick for older motors, but for the price difference I figure I should start the synthetic as this van has to last another 30 years.

Any problems with Fram Oil? Any problem with full synthetic in an older high mileage motor or  that makes this worse than the dirty oil in it?
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Re: Another oil thread
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 01:01:47 PM »
Motor oil is not pure.  They all have additives or additive package blended with it before bottling.  This is most certainly true for any Multi-vis oil sold.
Whether oil is synthetic or "natural", the only real difference is the uniform size of the molecules, synthetic's are more uniform.

The additives or detergents are probably of the most concern in high mileage engines.  If oil used previously was low detergent and the new stuff high detergent, then chunks of old oil/sludge/debris can drop off and clog the oil screen, leading to oil starvation.  Then again, that might NOT happen.

The other additives of concern might be those that help soften rubber seal.  A change to that *can* have effect on oil leaks.
One possible scenario is the detergent cleans away sludge to expose a leak/weep.  But, continued use softens the seal and it goes tight again.

There are endless combinations.  And I'm pretty sure the additive package formula Fram has added isn't published.  Further, Fram unlikely makes the oil, it is just rebranded from some other source.  Fram may or may not even control what the additive package is in the oil they sell.  It's up to the distributor agreement contract, which you probably can't ever see or gain knowledge of.

IMO, Fram is far more interested in selling/promoting the brand than actually having a quality product.  But, accidents CAN happen!

I do use their filters on my SOHC4s.  But, I do my own QA inspection on them before installation.  I don't have that luxury with most other Fram products.

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Re: Another oil thread
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 04:17:16 PM »
I've seen those filters cause restriction on older worn out systems, enough to cause serious pressure drop. Use with caution
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Re: Another oil thread
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 09:45:17 PM »
Thanks for thereplies on a worn out subject, and yes I did finally read a couple of the previous threads on oil.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=36651.50

Verdict is as before, the van is getting an oil change, I may even run a bit of seafoam through it before I drain it.
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