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K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« on: March 17, 2012, 01:59:52 PM »
I'm having quite a pain in the ass these last few hours with installing these parts. I wish I would have taken more in depth pics and videos of some of the smaller things. I have the 76 manual but it doesn't really show a good installation of things.. just numbers and split pictures. Does someone have a few pics of the rear setup I can use for reference ??? I'm stuck on these few items.

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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 02:16:14 PM »
 The spacer on the brake side should be smooth, ie no grooves/lines from seal..the sprocket side should have some lines. Dont forget the greasyspacer between sprocket carrier and the hub..
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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2012, 02:31:23 PM »
In the top picture your hub is oriented just about where it needs to be. In the bottom picture, the brake stay arm (the shorter, larger diameter link) bolts to the outside of the brake hub. You should have a shouldered bolt that passes through the backside (wheel side) of the hole in the brake hub (about 4 o'clock in the top picture). This shouldered bolt will also have a hole for a cotter pin to keep the nut from rattling off. The smaller diameter linkage, with the arm hanging off the back end, connects to the splined pin sticking out of the brake hub at 7 o'clock in the top picture. There should be a punch mark on the pin and on the brake arm to orient them correctly to eack other. On the other end of this same linkage, where it connects to the brake pedal pivot pin, needs to be rotated 180 degrees. If you already mounted the brake pedal (at the right footpeg) then you will need to remove the pedal, rotate the pedal pivot so the linkage connection is at about the 12 o'clock position, as opposed to the 6 o'clock position it is currently at (referring to the bottom picture). This pivot pin may have a punch mark on the end of the splined shaft that the pedal fits on to orient the brake pedal on the splined shaft, but I'm not 100% sure on that.


Here are picts of the axle components and spacers from one of my 750 K8's from another thread:

Fully assembled, sproket side:




Fully assembled, brake side:




Full assembly:




Fully disassembled. Parts from left to right:
-Left axle adjuster
-25mm spacer
-Axle (above)
-Sprocket carrier (above axle)
-42mm (32/33mm for 76' and earlier models) STEPPED SPACER
-Brake hub
-35mm spacer
-Right axle adjuster
-Axle nut




Reassembly, in order, from left to right:

Left axle adjuster goes on axle shaft:




Then the 25mm spacer:




Then the sprocket carrier:




THEN THE 42MM (32/33 mm 76' and earlier) STEPPED SPACER. This links the bearing in the sprocket hub to the bearing in the wheel hub:




Then the sprocket carrier fits into wheel hub:




Then the brake hub (no spacer here):




Then the 35mm spacer outside the brake hub:




Then the right axle adjuster:




Then get the biggest wrench you can find, and crank-er-down:




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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2012, 02:39:31 PM »
He stripped to paint. :)
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 02:41:59 PM »
I is wunderin why you went to the trouble of getting new spokes and powdercoat and not bother polishing that hub.
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 02:46:00 PM »
Wow... Thanks on the wheel part. I can do that part but seems like the other rod parts ill fuk up. I'm afraid I'm gonna miss a bolt or something won't be on right and fuk it up. I think ill try and do my best and see what happens

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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 02:47:14 PM »
If you get it wrong you will spot it.
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 02:48:16 PM »
K... I was spraying the side covers flat black... Not noticeing I was misting specs of black on the polished hub. I went to put it back on today and seen it! I was Like no fn way

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 02:49:39 PM »
K... I was spraying the side covers flat black... Not noticeing I was misting specs of black on the polished hub. I went to put it back on today and seen it! I was Like no fn way. And now its gettin so nice out I just want to ride this frickn bike!! :(

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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 02:55:47 PM »
I'm wondering I might just try and get as far as I can and take the bike in.  I know I can't do the wireing for the life of me so I will have someone do that

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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 03:00:54 PM »

I painted the washers for the shocks black.. worked out well...this is as far as I got right now

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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 03:05:16 PM »
The wiring is really easy as long as you use the diagram. It's colour coded, so red goes to red, green to green etc.
it's looking smart mate. I like the pipe. What is it?
« Last Edit: March 17, 2012, 03:06:48 PM by LesterPiglet »
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 03:06:18 PM »
The wiring is really easy as long as you use the diagram. It's colour coded, so red goes to red, green to green etc.
yea but why is some mixed?

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 03:07:59 PM »
Mixed in what way? You mean like green with a red tracer? Cos that connects to the wire that is green with a red tracer. :)
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 05:28:59 PM »
The wiring is really easy as long as you use the diagram. It's colour coded, so red goes to red, green to green etc.
it's looking smart mate. I like the pipe. What is it?

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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 05:36:23 PM »
I like the shortness of it. I had a homemade one on mine. A GSX750ES box on standard headers that stopped at the rear shock. I want one.

« Last Edit: March 17, 2012, 05:38:23 PM by LesterPiglet »
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2012, 07:08:48 PM »
Well I tried to get the wheel on... Is it just me or is that rear wheel right hand setup just a nitemare to get on?? The spacer is just a #$%* to get on in itself ...but include the chain tensioner there's like no flipping way.. I need like Hercules to pull on the frame just a hair ..how do people do this by themselves????? I have a buddy gonna come on Tuesday and help out.

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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2012, 02:42:40 AM »
Something isn't quite right. It's normally a simple task to fit the rear wheel.
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2012, 04:00:27 AM »
I am going to make a guess your arent drinking enough beer..:)
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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2012, 05:14:38 AM »
I read somewhere on here that the f and k models have non interchangeable rear wheels... one the 550's... is this a 550? lol

I'm having similar issues, and I think it's due to having and F frame and a K wheel

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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2012, 05:27:31 AM »
If you look at my pic further up the page you will notice that it's a K frame. I bought a new F frame and everything has been transplanted without modification.

I just remembered, I changed swinging arm too but I cant remember seeing any difference between them.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 05:29:34 AM by LesterPiglet »
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2012, 06:25:11 AM »

I painted the washers for the shocks black.. worked out well...this is as far as I got right now

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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2012, 06:30:14 AM »
Well spotted.
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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Re: K ...lost on rear wheel installation
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2012, 06:46:36 AM »

Yea that was my first pic of me messing around seeing how it looked...then after I noticed it was on wrong. I have the wheel on but still can't get the tensionr on.
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2012, 07:49:48 AM »
Disconnect the brake rod for a start. And it still looks like you have the rear brake pedal shaft in the wrong orientation.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 07:53:04 AM by LesterPiglet »
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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