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Offline DynoDon

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Any suggestions for carb rebuild kits for a CB400F
« on: April 05, 2012, 12:04:01 PM »
Other than ebay, any suggestions for vendors.
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Re: Any suggestions for carb rebuild kits for a CB400F
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 12:07:54 PM »
Honda.

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Re: Any suggestions for carb rebuild kits for a CB400F
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 12:29:25 PM »
DUH!
I guess I assumed that they were no longer available from Honda.
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Re: Any suggestions for carb rebuild kits for a CB400F
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 05:48:57 PM »
I bought carb parts from Honda about 2 years ago, they were in "new style" packaging and looked newly manufactured, you have to check for availability now. They don't have what you may call "carb kits". There's a gasket set that has all gaskets and o-rings for one carb and its fuel tee. There are jets available - limited size availability the last time I checked. I bought needles about 6 years ago and they were apparently very new as well. The float valve is available.
Buying all these OEM parts will cost quite a bit more than a Keyster carb kit, available through www.siriusconinc.com and other dealers. This kit usually has the stock jets, a needle, some gaskets (no fuel tee o-rings), and maybe a float valve. The jets are NOT Keihin OEM, and I've had tuning problems develop after installing a Keyster kit that were solved by reinstalling the original old jets. Jets wear very slowly: the needle jet and needle get abraded by contact to some extent but other jets should last the life of the bike. The needle in particular is a very high precision bit of metal, aftermarket ones I've looked at are all measurably different from Keihin OEM ones. Using Keihin (Honda) needles seems advisable. The Keihin float valve from Honda costs more than a complete Keyster kit: I have replaced several sets of these valves shortly after the owner installed Keysters because the carbs commenced dripping soon afterwards: in my limited experience Honda/Keihin float valves have not had this failure rate.

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Re: Any suggestions for carb rebuild kits for a CB400F
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2012, 01:24:04 PM »
Check out your float needles before you buy kits.  If you have good rubber tipped needles or if by some miracle the metal ones don't have a ring you may only need O-rings.

Find someone on E-bay selling the float bowl gaskets then go to Ace or a good plumbing supply store for the rest of the O-rings. You should be abble to get em done for less than the price of one kit.

If you find that the float needles are bad or need other parts from the kits well then you'r stuck going that way.  The only things I end up using from those kits are the float needles and the O-rings.  The rest go into my parts organizor for some other carb repair job.

If something like a jet is stuck give up on getting it out before you wreck it.  Leave them in though the dip process and try again.  Still stuck?  Give up again and repeat.

Dip one carburetor at a time starting with #1 and put every metal part you remove off of it in the dip as well.  I like to use a new 15oz can of Barymans Chemtool and as small of a can as I can find that will fit the carburetor body.  I re-use the Barymans for the next three carbs as well. 

Once removed from the dip I wash them with degreaser, a parts brush, and warm water.

Blow them out with an air compressor thuroughly and the parts as well.  Make sure you have a good grip on the small important bits and hold them over a bucket just incase you don't.