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I got news that my grandmother in Peoria ,AZ has inop cancer. I am in Wisconsin. Now I know this is a hardcore run (and I have not done this kind of run in many years) in 91' I did a coast to coast but that was on a brand new GSXR, but I am willing to do it now on my old 750. Just need some in put guys.

I grew up close to her and have not seen her since about 93' when I brought my daughters (by first marriage) through. We do have contact via email that is sporadic. My grandfather also has Alzheimer's - which is fairly advanced, which I am sure he will NOT even know who I am if I was to arrive. But I do think this is a good chance to make closure with them and ease my own mind.

This is the same grandmother that fought my mom time and time again for custody when I was very young after my parents divorce. I do feel very connected to her. Now I had thought of flying but the fly costs are almost triple of that on the bike, but the time is about 1/3 of the bike travel time also.  ???

The has created an enormous fight in the household with the misses as you might imagine. She keeps telling me that I am not 20 anymore (well duh). But I not much more either.  ;D

I figure with the suspension set nice and light and a full array of gear I could make it without too much punishment.  ???

She gives me the "What if something goes wrong with the bike?" "I am not going to drive 3 states to save your ass."

Again, funny that the spell check tries to change GSXR to SEX  ;D

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El Cheapo, now this may be the six or so beers talking, but I'd like to think that no matter how old I get, I'd always be able to make a good long distance journey. From what I've read of you from the last few weeks, you're more than able to take care of both your bike and yourself; and having a decent enough reason doesn't hurt either.

Keep a few quarst of decent oil with you, a nice heavy crescent wrench and some spare cash on hand and you'll be good to go.

Whether you choose to ride or fly, I wish you some good luck.

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It just would be nice to know that there was a motor within reach during the run for a few hundred bucks. Even if I killed the motor the replacement plus the run would still be cheaper than flying.

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I hear ya. Well, put out a call and let folks know what route you might be taking. See if there are any japanese salvage yards on the way. One problem with taking a bike is you can't throw a spare motor or parts into the back. How many miles in total do you figure you're going to clock by the end?
You've probably done a whackload more long distance riding than me on a bike (ie, over 0), so keep us updated if you decide to go for it!

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If your bike is in good shape, it may fair better than you if you don't flog it all the way. By "fair better" I don't mean to imply you are not up to it, but to an extent your wife makes a good point. Depending on your age (likely much younger than myself  :)) You might just have to plan for more frequent breaks. Years ago, a 350-400 mile day was not out of the question. Now, probably a very different story, the butt gets sore and the legs and back need unkinking after an hour or so in the saddle. With or without fairing could make a difference also. Fighting the wind, at high speed, over a long distance gets tiring (it should have good venting though given where you are headed). Good luck in any event, have a good trip.
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Tom, just did a travelocity search and came up with $315.

It would be a heck of a ride but ouch. thats what, about a two day ride? Three hours by plane? I don't envy you the decision but each has its own advantages and disadvantages.

Good luck and Best Wishes to Fam.

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cheapo~
300 or 400 mile days is about what i'm good for but, your 750 is probably more comfy than my zx7r that i do my distances on so, you may do better than me on average

I-80 will get you thru nebrasska then you can jut down thru colorado if you want... there are many users in the denver area, i'm sure we could find a spot for ya... i've got a tent if nothing else  ;D

i've done the run many a time from denver to phoenix... quickest is I-25 to I-40 to I-17 but, if you're interested in offshoots of the beaten path... let me know.  there are many  ;D
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AAA membership, the RV version, covers motorcycle towing. Might be worth the extra cash.

Seems like a nice long ride to clear your head and get some thinking done.
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i have free towing on all my vehicles via state farm... costs about 8 dollars per year per vehicle.

and believe me... i've used it!

heffay <--  too cheap for a cell phone but, not for pseudo-free towing  :D
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The slab is punishment. Secondary roads and taking your time- fun.  I stop every 75 miles or when ever I feel like it. Take a nap somewhere.  Bring a book. Write some letters. This is a contemplative time. So- contemplate.  There're are a million places to get help anymore.  Join the BMWMOA and you get the Annonymous Book; better than HOG or any other organization. In fact, WE should do that.  Anyway, 2 best things to bring are a stout credit card and a good sheepskin.
Do it for your grandmother. Wouldn't she rather see you all sunburned and crusty looking rather than newly pressed with fresh Brylcreem in your hair?
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Re: Planning a damn long run.. need in put.. to ride or not to ride....??
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2006, 07:34:29 PM »
Hmmmnnnn, well Tom, I imagine that the weather is pretty nice on your side of the pond now, so a nice long ride would be good for the soul, but don't even contemplate it if you're just doing it to save money.

If I was faced with a ride that long I'd do it over several days, staying in motels with nice comfy beds after a day in the saddle, and preferably room service too.

If you've gotta get there in a hurry, you better fly mate, when my Grandad died my Dad rang me to say he'd had a heart attack and wasn't doing too good, so I jumped in the car and left right away, but sadly he'd died in the 4 hours it took me to get there.

If I had the chance to say goodbye, no amount of money would have made a difference. Cheers, Terry.  ;)
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Re: Planning a damn long run.. need in put.. to ride or not to ride....??
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2006, 08:09:37 PM »
The reasoning behind the run is multi part. It allows lots of think time, a chance to meet other members of the forum if they will have me (did I mention that this solidfies the forum also?), the also allows for a much needed soul searching time. Right now her health is holding so I think I will be safe with the time frame. PLUS I NEED TO SHIP PARTS FIRST  ;) I'll have your total in the AM.

You know why parts from Australia are better? Because they are from the future  ;) Seeing that you mates are a day ahead your parts should be better, but remeber that they are a day older too.  :D

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Re: Planning a damn long run.. need in put.. to ride or not to ride....??
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2006, 07:30:20 AM »
I would as ernie suggests, take the hiways. Interstate will do some serious beeting cause of the wind at higher speeds. However, place for riding on somewhat busier highways, you dont want the "10 year" highway. you know, the one that has a one car in every ten years.

Also, put on your center stand if you took it off and maybe a sissy bar with pad. Prop the bike on the stand and lean back and prop your feet! Some one has to have done this besides me! You can also use the back rest to hold things too.

I would also say to ride 50 - 100 miles and stop. you might stop more but your stops can be shorter so you will not lose much more time really and it is also better for your state of mind I think. So ride 75 or so and take 5 - 10. Should take you about 3 days. At a steady but relatively moderate rate.

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Re: Planning a damn long run.. need in put.. to ride or not to ride....??
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2006, 02:58:40 AM »
The reasoning behind the run is multi part. It allows lots of think time, a chance to meet other members of the forum if they will have me (did I mention that this solidfies the forum also?), the also allows for a much needed soul searching time. Right now her health is holding so I think I will be safe with the time frame. PLUS I NEED TO SHIP PARTS FIRST  ;) I'll have your total in the AM.

You know why parts from Australia are better? Because they are from the future  ;) Seeing that you mates are a day ahead your parts should be better, but remeber that they are a day older too.  :D

Ha ha, nah, you're not even close Tom, the reason that parts are so expensive here is because we can ride 24/7 due to our magnificent weather so bikes that might last 30+ years in your colder climes are only good for about 25% of that time here before they're stuffed.

No rush on those parts mate, I just paid the tax-turds 2800 bucks on top of the 18000 I already donated to the welfare-dependant last year, so my bank account is currently smaller that the Silicon Doc's IQ. No biggie, if everyone here does the right thing and buys one of my coolers this month I'll be able to feed my small family, but there's not much left over for some of your wonderful bits.

Whatever you do Tom, stay safe mate, if you do ride your bike make sure you prepare it adequately, (tires, oil, filters, plugs, chain & sprockets, battery etc) and like Eldy says, take plenty of breaks, it's a well known fact here in Oz that after a few hours a CB750 seat grows some very sharp teeth indeed, ha ha! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Planning a damn long run.. need in put.. to ride or not to ride....??
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2006, 07:02:08 AM »
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it's a well known fact here in Oz that after a few hours a CB750 seat grows some very sharp teeth indeed, ha ha! Cheers, Terry.

How true. With the additional "padding" I've acquired over the years, you would think there would be some improvement in this regard, but alas, such is not the case.  ;D
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Re: Planning a damn long run.. need in put.. to ride or not to ride....??
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2006, 10:36:02 AM »
Some food for thought...

I equate survival on a motorcycle to alertness and situational awareness.  Long trips tend to dull both.  And, when you add distractions such as reminiscing, worry, and grief, the time spent with issues necessary for road survival diminish.

You'll have to assess your own mental attitude.  But, I would expect that as you get nearer your goal, focusing on the job of driving will become more difficult, and you become more vulnerable.

You could rely on luck.  But, when luck fails, it's your skin and bones that will pay the price.  Bumpers and fenders of other vehicles are less than forgiving.  It will only take one car on an otherwise deserted road to cause a total reassessment of your priorities.

If you are going to use the trip for "soul searching", which is a plenty good idea, choose a transportation method that doesn't rely so much on mental focus to ensure your own well being.
Air travel won't give you the alone-time or atmosphere for self meditation.  Neither will most forms of public transport.

I find driving a car to be less intense and demanding than MC operation.  Minor judgement lapses, usually only bend up bits of metal that you can easily walk away from, especially if it is a rental car.

Consider renting a car for the trip.  You'll get the time for reflection, minimize your own risk, and can drive for longer stints with less fatigue.  Get the insurance, if there is a break down or mishap, it's someone else's worry.

However, if your goal is to have a motorcycle touring adventure to divest your mind of thoughts about Grandma, the SOHC4 should do it!

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Re: Planning a damn long run.. need in put.. to ride or not to ride....??
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2006, 09:06:51 PM »

 If it was me I'd take the bike, follow the side roads and have the unwind time.
  I've ridden, driven, and walked all over this country, and and have found that there are only a few cases where the freeway is any faster, but it's always more stressed and expensive than the backroads, most freeway gas stations and restaurants are geared towards tourism.
 plus the best food your likely to find is in the little towns where they have real cafe's and eateries, too many MacD's  and Bk's on the freeway.

Pretty much the only time I drive on the freeways now is to get out of town, and to go TO work, for coming home I know a hundred different ways to my front door.
     
 Hope everything works out with your mom.

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Re: Planning a damn long run.. need in put.. to ride or not to ride....??
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2006, 09:55:38 PM »
having just attempted a similar run myself, it seems i might have some advice for you. however- the weather and the bike didn't cooperate and i ended up on greyhound the rest of the way... Yuck.
remember that nasty storm we had in michigan about 3 weeks ago? I tried to beat that on my way to Kansas City... it didn't work.
I parked the bike in someone's shed for the time and picked it back up on my way home.


enjoy the ride and bring your title with you in case you have to get really creative.

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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2006, 10:24:16 PM »
when i suggested... well, i didn't really suggest and it seems that some have taken it that way so, i'll roll with it...  if you take back roads, it will take you longer as i'm SURE you're well aware of.  travelling across the country on twisty 55 mph roads will always take you MUCH longer than straight shots on a 70 mph freeway. 

when i travel i tend to take the interstate and meandering jaunts here and there on the 2 laners.  that way i can get some high speed stints in while taking it down a notch every so often to enjoy the scenery.

but, here's my best recommendation... take the bike!
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2006, 01:46:43 AM »
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I equate survival on a motorcycle to alertness and situational awareness.

Couldn't agree more.
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2006, 07:45:50 AM »
And highway pegs and a windsheild! When I first got my CB, I rode about 250 miles in one day....I was totally beat up by the wind, and my legs were so cramped, I couldn't walk! With the winsheild and highway bars, I can go and go...
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2006, 02:19:17 PM »
I second the pegs and windshield. Get a quick disconnect shield so you do not have to take a hour putting it on or taking it off!

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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2006, 02:19:50 PM »
And highway pegs and a windsheild! When I first got my CB, I rode about 250 miles in one day....I was totally beat up by the wind, and my legs were so cramped, I couldn't walk! With the winsheild and highway bars, I can go and go...

Good point mate, a big fairing makes all the difference on a long ride, I did an easy 1500 mile ride easy in 3 days on my old BMW K100RT, something that I'd never attempt on an unfaired bike. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2006, 02:21:53 PM »
Oderin a windshield for long runs. I think I will be flying...maybe.. Just the time frame with the biz down no is crucial. When it was from home it was not a big deal.

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Re: Planning a damn long run.. need in put.. to ride or not to ride....??
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2006, 05:44:09 AM »
Tom....Take a look at my 750.  I've modded it for COMFORT..which is why I added the windshield and added 'home-made' extended highway footpegs for my long legs.  Also check out the backrest I made. 

Man, I've ridden from Oklahoma to Sturgis 4 times, and as Unk Ernie says...the slab is a BEATER on your butt!!  On my 1st trip I learned really quick that on a 'long-distance' ride like you're planning, besides the interstate being hard on you, you gotta remember that you're gonna be surrounded by cages.  They don't give a damn for anyone on a bike!  After about 600 miles, I started looking for the back roads.  Now remember...it's gonna take a LOT longer to go the 'back way'...but if you have the time, I'd suggest it.

I also might add that on my 3rd trip to Sturgis, by way of the back roads a damn cow started across the road about 100 yards ahead of me.  Now..I'm not 20 anymore, so my reaction time to hit the side brake is a LOT slower than it used to be...so....that's when, after arriving back home....this time without incident, I fabbed the front forward brake off the footpeg.  Now..it's smooth sailing...I just lean back on the backrest, legs are stretched out front, windshield keeps the windburn down, and the front forward brake is there ready for another cow if I need it. :-\
Triple AAA doesn't hurt to have, and even if your bike quits on you, it will at least give you peace of mind....which I think figures into what this trip is all about.

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