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Offline excellrec

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Bee-Hive springs anyone?
« on: March 20, 2012, 09:29:21 am »
Cycle-X has just released these- http://www.cyclexchange.net/beehive%20003.jpg

They look interesting.  I'm wondering if anyone has any input on using Bee-Hive springs for a daily rider.  I know that one spring instead of two can lead to more catastrophic spring failure.  Of course it probably depends on the spec and quality of springAny thoughts?

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Re: Bee-Hive springs anyone?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 09:57:08 pm »
I can't comment on this specific application but in general Beehive springs allow a lighter retainer with a smaller OD and themselves have less mass to move. Due to the  shape they are less prone to harmonic problems. I believe they are wound from ovate wire also which has some advantage. Supposedly can do the job with less pressure, reducing parasitic losses, wear and  heat.

 I'm not seeing them in the extreme race engines yet but they are very popular in milder performance applications like hot street cars and street/strip applications.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 10:03:58 pm »
I just found a broken inner on my race engine so I know what you mean about dual springs. I've broken several inners over the years and one outer spring. Never had a valve drop but I'm in the motor every couple races checking them.  I'm not sure in a Honda if I'd find a broken spring in time, I rarely look in there.
 I wonder if anyone here has found a bad valve spring in routine maintainance?
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 10:05:44 pm »
I think comp cams came out with them first several years ago...wonder if they are making them for CycleX?
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2012, 10:11:19 pm »
They might even be for another application that just happen to fit too.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 10:05:06 am »
I guess it might be too early to tell how reliable these might be on a daily rider, however appealing the performance gains may sound.

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 10:07:33 am »
 IK dont think they are new .pretty sure they were already tried out at least 80 years ago...
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 10:14:42 am »
IK dont think they are new .pretty sure they were already tried out at least 80 years ago...

Bee-hive springs have been around, I'm just referring to these particular springs, alloy, and etc to be used in a daily driver with confidence that they'll be able to take quite a few miles.

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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 12:14:47 pm »
They are using them in many racing cars.