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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #100 on: October 15, 2014, 06:55:47 PM »
Gday Damage, are you fitting rear sets to the bike..?  These bikes are horrible with clip ons and stock pegs, ergonomics are all wrong, stock pegs are too far forward and its as uncomfortable as hell, been there done that, if you are running rearsets then you its a bit better but in all seriousness, these bikes aren't really designed to work with clip ons, thats why the CR race bikes have a very long tank, look at the post classic racers, they all use superbike style bars, which clear the tank..... ;)
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #101 on: October 15, 2014, 07:04:16 PM »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on October 15, 2014, 06:55:47 PM
Gday Damage, are you fitting rear sets to the bike..?  These bikes are horrible with clip ons and stock pegs, ergonomics are all wrong, stock pegs are too far forward and its as uncomfortable as hell, been there done that, if you are running rearsets then you its a bit better but in all seriousness, these bikes aren't really designed to work with clip ons, thats why the CR race bikes have a very long tank, look at the post classic racers, they all use superbike style bars, which clear the tank..... ;)
I'm hearing you, yes have planned all along to have rear sets fitted, and expect a less than comfortable ride. I may have made an error with the bars I've chosen, they are designed for a track bike. I will find it hard to change direction as I'm prone to be a bit "tight".
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #102 on: October 15, 2014, 07:59:02 PM »
Quote from: Damage Inc on October 15, 2014, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: grcamna2 on October 15, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
Nice looking custom work 'Damage Inc.'  8)
Thx grcamna2, it's been a slow process. I feel like I'm getting the look I'm after. I'm looking forward to the day I ride it, and that's my motivation.
Quote from: calj737 on October 15, 2014, 04:36:57 AM
If you want clip-ons and to retain the stock tank, get some that have a rise to them and are adjustable in the "pull back". It should allow you to have the best of all worlds.
Thx calj737, unfortunately I already have some clip-ons and they aren't of the adjustable variety. I suppose I could consider resale and update to a adjustable set. That's an option.

I like the name of your thread 'Mongrel' ; a 'mongrel' to me is known for having the best mix of interbreeding DNA to make it one of the toughest 'Dogs' out there  ;D
I like your use of strong steel parts which speaks to me of durability over the long haul  8)  ;)
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2014, 10:46:23 PM »
G'day Retro
I some how answered your post before I received it.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #104 on: October 16, 2014, 12:38:14 AM »
Quote from: Damage Inc on October 15, 2014, 10:46:23 PM
G'day Retro
I some how answered your post before I received it.

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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #105 on: October 16, 2014, 01:57:35 AM »
Quote from: grcamna2 on October 15, 2014, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: Damage Inc on October 15, 2014, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: grcamna2 on October 15, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
Nice looking custom work 'Damage Inc.'  8)
Thx grcamna2, it's been a slow process. I feel like I'm getting the look I'm after. I'm looking forward to the day I ride it, and that's my motivation.
Quote from: calj737 on October 15, 2014, 04:36:57 AM
If you want clip-ons and to retain the stock tank, get some that have a rise to them and are adjustable in the "pull back". It should allow you to have the best of all worlds.
Thx calj737, unfortunately I already have some clip-ons and they aren't of the adjustable variety. I suppose I could consider resale and update to a adjustable set. That's an option.

I like the name of your thread 'Mongrel' ; a 'mongrel' to me is known for having the best mix of interbreeding DNA to make it one of the toughest 'Dogs' out there  ;D
I like your use of strong steel parts which speaks to me of durability over the long haul  8)  ;)
I'm impressed with your description of a "mongrel", if it lives up to it, I'll be more than happy. I'm a structural steel fabricator by trade, so I tend to over engineer things. One of my driving motivations to start this build, is to build some different exhaust systems for it and I think they could define the "Mongrel"
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #106 on: November 01, 2014, 09:07:08 PM »
I've been assembling my carbs and noticed that the throttle valves aren't all level with each other. I'm assuming that they should be.
Do I get them level by adjusting the "adjuster holder"?


Top photo shows the different levels.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #107 on: November 01, 2014, 09:09:06 PM »
This is when bench synch, then vacuum gauge synch come in to play.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #108 on: November 01, 2014, 09:22:28 PM »
Quote from: goldarrow on November 01, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
This is when bench synch, then vacuum gauge synch come in to play.
Ahhh
Thank you very much goldarrow.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #109 on: November 03, 2014, 02:13:32 AM »
Finished my carby assembly tonight, took me a while to figure out how to get the bowl orings to stay in place.

Moving on to splitting the engine case next.
Deep breath, here goes!
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #110 on: November 14, 2014, 02:41:57 AM »
So it appears that the last po to adjust these case bolts, tensioned them with an axe.

I can't get a socket or spanner to grip 2 bolts that look like this one.
Any ideas on how to get them out? I'm not quite ready to weld a nut onto it. Perhaps a pair of vice grips or locking pliers.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #111 on: November 14, 2014, 06:13:27 AM »
Quote from: Damage Inc on November 14, 2014, 02:41:57 AM
So it appears that the last po to adjust these case bolts, tensioned them with an axe.

I can't get a socket or spanner to grip 2 bolts that look like this one.
Any ideas on how to get them out? I'm not quite ready to weld a nut onto it. Perhaps a pair of vice grips or locking pliers.

I would try vice grips on it first.  If that doesn't work, why not just go ahead and use your nut-welding technique?  After all, you're not going to want to reuse that bolt anyway. 

FWIW, you can purchase entire sets of replacement bolts for pretty reasonable prices on eBay.  I know that you still have shipping costs to incur with shipping to Australia that we didn't have to consider though.
 
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #112 on: November 14, 2014, 08:02:32 AM »
Heat it up really well with a torch, then use Vise grips or weld to it.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #113 on: November 15, 2014, 02:30:50 AM »
Good point calj737, heat always helps.
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Quote from: Damage Inc on November 14, 2014, 02:41:57 AM
So it appears that the last po to adjust these case bolts, tensioned them with an axe.

I can't get a socket or spanner to grip 2 bolts that look like this one.
Any ideas on how to get them out? I'm not quite ready to weld a nut onto it. Perhaps a pair of vice grips or locking pliers.

I would try vice grips on it first.  If that doesn't work, why not just go ahead and use your nut-welding technique?  After all, you're not going to want to reuse that bolt anyway. 

FWIW, you can purchase entire sets of replacement bolts for pretty reasonable prices on eBay.  I know that you still have shipping costs to incur with shipping to Australia that we didn't have to consider though.
 
Thx Restoration Fan
I've got the new s/s fasteners for the covers, but I'll look into the engine bolt kits. Some of the philipsheads are pretty grotty as well.
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« Reply #114 on: November 15, 2014, 03:20:09 AM »
They're not Phillips, they're JIS. The reason they look grotty is lunkheads before you used Phillips bits on them trying to turn them out and in. If you replace them with SS, use some Antiseize on the threads when screwing SS into aluminum.

AlloyBoltz.com has complete kits for about $35 all labeled in separate little baggies for you,
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #115 on: November 15, 2014, 04:21:25 AM »
Quote from: calj737 on November 15, 2014, 03:20:09 AM
They're not Phillips, they're JIS. The reason they look grotty is lunkheads before you used Phillips bits on them trying to turn them out and in. If you replace them with SS, use some Antiseize on the threads when screwing SS into aluminum.

AlloyBoltz.com has complete kits for about $35 all labeled in separate little baggies for you,
JIS you say!  Thx didn't know that one.
I've got more than a lifetimes supply of nickel based antiseize. I think that's the best for s/s in aluminium.
Will be sure to check that site out thx again.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #116 on: November 17, 2014, 02:02:04 AM »
Quote from: calj737 on November 15, 2014, 03:20:09 AM
They're not Phillips, they're JIS. The reason they look grotty is lunkheads before you used Phillips bits on them trying to turn them out and in. If you replace them with SS, use some Antiseize on the threads when screwing SS into aluminum.

AlloyBoltz.com has complete kits for about $35 all labeled in separate little baggies for you,
I looked at the site and the kits I found were similar, if not the same as what I already have. They do the covers on the sides and head. I'd be interested in a kit for the upper and lower case. Have you seen one of these and I'm just missing it? I was wondering if Allen heads would even be suitable, considering the tensioning required.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #117 on: November 17, 2014, 02:50:04 AM »



Having some difficulty separating the cases, I think all relevant bolts are out. There is 2 in top photo which I don't think that they needed to be removed yet. The" tap lightly with a wooden hammer" is having no effect. Who knows what they've been glued together with previously!
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« Reply #118 on: November 17, 2014, 04:50:12 AM »
Ah, sorry. Yes those are only covers kits, not cases. Haven't seen specific case kits. I went thru with a comb and listed all bolts and nuts for my cases and then bought them as individual pieces from a different source. You just have to peruse a few pages of the parts fiches if you wish to do the same.

If they're not damaged, they will polish up pretty well, or even have them re-plated as some members do.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #119 on: November 18, 2014, 04:32:01 AM »
Still having problem splitting these cases!
No amount of hammering , with a nylon hammer. Not getting any movement.
Some tips or tricks would be appreciated.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #120 on: November 18, 2014, 11:05:38 AM »
possibly soak the whole bottom end in a tank of warm fluid for a while?
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #121 on: November 18, 2014, 12:54:27 PM »
bet there is one bolt still holding it together!!
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #122 on: November 18, 2014, 11:10:33 PM »
Quote from: Kemp on November 18, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
bet there is one bolt still holding it together!!
Is someone running a book? Your probably on the favourite there. If there is an internal bolt that would be it..
There is only the two large bolts externally that haven't been removed, which you see in the top picture
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #123 on: November 19, 2014, 01:49:27 AM »
And the winner is "Kemp".
One internal bolt I missed in the manual.
2 taps and split.
Thx guys for your tips.
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Re: Mongrel
« Reply #124 on: November 20, 2014, 10:44:44 PM »
Today I've dropped the crank and conrods off to the engine shop, to be balanced. They said that they'll clean up the bearing surfaces as well.
So I've decided to replace the main and big end bearings, while I'm at it.
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