Topic: Mongrel

[Damage Inc]

Thx calj.
Yes #9 looks like the switch I'm after. Also temp. Unavailable, I'll get the numbers down and search to see if any available. I'll have a search on the forum and see what I can get from a parter.

[Damage Inc]

Does anyone know what, if any model 500 had the spring and ball bearing on the transmission fork barrel retainer screw. I'm struggling to determine which model they were on. Mine being a 72 500.

[Damage Inc]

Back into this build.
I'm just about to start a complete assembly of the motor, this will be my first engine build of any kind. I've taken photos along the (disassembly) way, but probably not nearly enough.
I have the service manual, which I followed for the disassembly and plan to use it for the reassembly. What I have noticed is it lacks tip for reassembly i.e. where to apply lube on assembly or sealants where there isn't any gasket or even not to lube or seal?


Any tip on available aids or posts that I can use to help me along the way?

Or any tips from your own experience?
 

[calj737]

I apply assembly line on every hard part that rotates or comes into contact with another, bearing surface, or gear. It doesn’t hurt to use it, and it can definitely help upon initial startup.

[Damage Inc]

Thank you calj737.
I’ve got a tub of redline assembly lube which I plan to use.
Just need to make sure I put it every where it needs to go.

[Damage Inc]

Just a couple of questions in regards to the 72 500 shift drum screw assembly.
I got a new bearing ball and spring, but not sure if they are the correct size or even required on the 72 model, as some models don’t have them. The balls diameter is larger than the inside diameter of the collet guide and the spring outside diameter is considerably smaller than the inside of the collet guide.
Does this sound right?

[Damage Inc]

So I’ve started to put the cases together and stuffed up.  I knew if I didn’t align the bearing dowl pins properly,when you tighten the cases together they get pushed through the casting.  I thought they were, but one obviously wasn’t. Next picture shows the result.   


So now I have to strip it all back down and do a welding repair.

[calj737]

TIG with 4047 wire on the cast casings. Works best and causes the least distortion to the case. You can also avoid a lot of porosity with 4047 wire due to its lower melting point that 4043/5356/4943.

[Damage Inc]

Thx calj737,
I’ve got some 4047, but only in 3.2mm. Might get some 2.5mm for such a little weld.

[Damage Inc]

I,m about to install new head studs.
Any tips or hazards I need to be aware of?
Do I avoid anti seize?
How tight should they be?
Thanks in advance, advice has been much appreciated so far and will continue to be.

[calj737]

Use some type of thread lubricant. Snug them up to about 12#, the head nuts will torque them in the rest of the way.

[Damage Inc]

Thanks calj737.
Excuse my ignorance, what does 12# mean? Is it a torque setting? I understand ft/lb but not familiar with this one. 

[calj737]

# is a symbol for "pounds". 12 Ft/lbs=12#.

[Damage Inc]

That was quick! Ah, thanks. I’ve learned something today. Thanks again. 

[Damage Inc]

I’ve moved away from the fibreglass seat cowling to a aluminium one. Much happier with the new shape.

[Damage Inc]

Setting up my taillight assembly.

[Damage Inc]

So! Let’s get this build back on track.
I’m looking at assembling the rims. Any one had experience with painted spokes? Whether pre painting prior to assembling becomes an issue, when tensioning does paint crack?

[MauiK3]

I would think that painted spokes would eventually shed the paint just from flexing during use

[grcamna2]

I would think that painted spokes would eventually shed the paint just from flexing during use

I've tried it, & yes they eventually do;I polished them first,which was a mistake.
Cadmium,zinc? plating may be cost effective,although I've never personally done it at home.
I saw a YouTube on it once and it mentioned glass bead blasting them prior to soaking them in the cadmium. I watched them 'do it yourself' coating the spokes at home,but it's been a while.

I would rather get used,OEM spokes coated compared to buying cheap china spokes..

[Damage Inc]

I would think that painted spokes would eventually shed the paint just from flexing during use

Yes, I think there is a good chance you're right. TY

[Damage Inc]

I would think that painted spokes would eventually shed the paint just from flexing during use

I've tried it, & yes they eventually do;I polished them first,which was a mistake.
Cadmium,zinc? plating may be cost effective,although I've never personally done it at home.
I saw a YouTube on it once and it mentioned glass bead blasting them prior to soaking them in the cadmium. I watched them 'do it yourself' coating the spokes at home,but it's been a while.

I would rather get used,OEM spokes coated compared to buying cheap china spokes..

I've still got the original spokes, so I might try blasting, good metal etched primer and paint. In the end it'll be a lesson! TY

[Damage Inc]

Just been checking on Ebay for an after market speedo/tacho.
Is there anything I need to be mindful of, when it comes to compatibility?
Do we have a painting guru in the forum? As far as body work goes I've got to prepare and paint plastic, aluminum and steel. Was wondering if there is a process that is the same for all? ie order and types of fillers, primers and paints?? Spent hours on youtube already...

[grcamna2]

I would think that painted spokes would eventually shed the paint just from flexing during use

I've tried it, & yes they eventually do;I polished them first,which was a mistake.
Cadmium,zinc? plating may be cost effective,although I've never personally done it at home.
I saw a YouTube on it once and it mentioned glass bead blasting them prior to soaking them in the cadmium. I watched them 'do it yourself' coating the spokes at home,but it's been a while.

I would rather get used,OEM spokes coated compared to buying cheap china spokes..

I've still got the original spokes, so I might try blasting, good metal etched primer and paint. In the end it'll be a lesson! TY

Do you know someone who will vapor blast them!:Bling 

[Damage Inc]

I would think that painted spokes would eventually shed the paint just from flexing during use

I've tried it, & yes they eventually do;I polished them first,which was a mistake.
Cadmium,zinc? plating may be cost effective,although I've never personally done it at home.
I saw a YouTube on it once and it mentioned glass bead blasting them prior to soaking them in the cadmium. I watched them 'do it yourself' coating the spokes at home,but it's been a while.

I would rather get used,OEM spokes coated compared to buying cheap china spokes..

I've still got the original spokes, so I might try blasting, good metal etched primer and paint. In the end it'll be a lesson! TY

Do you know someone who will vapor blast them!:Bling 

I know of sand, soda, bead and ice. Whats in vapor?

[grcamna2]

I would think that painted spokes would eventually shed the paint just from flexing during use

I've tried it, & yes they eventually do;I polished them first,which was a mistake.
Cadmium,zinc? plating may be cost effective,although I've never personally done it at home.
I saw a YouTube on it once and it mentioned glass bead blasting them prior to soaking them in the cadmium. I watched them 'do it yourself' coating the spokes at home,but it's been a while.

I would rather get used,OEM spokes coated compared to buying cheap china spokes..

I've still got the original spokes, so I might try blasting, good metal etched primer and paint. In the end it'll be a lesson! TY

Do you know someone who will vapor blast them!:Bling 

I know of sand, soda, bead and ice. Whats in vapor?

A very fine abrasive,that imo gives a nice shiny finish.. to cast aluminum.
I've never used or owned a vapor blast cabinet before.
Take a look at member DME's XV1000 Virago project in 'Other Bikes' and look at the engine.