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Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« on: March 28, 2012, 05:47:11 PM »
Just curious does anyone know if its possible to put wider tires..( avons?) On a 76 550 stock rear wheel??

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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2012, 06:19:13 PM »
Anything is possible, just isn't practical to go bigger than 4.00" on stock rim
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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 06:28:01 PM »
Just curious does anyone know if its possible to put wider tires..( avons?) On a 76 550 stock rear wheel??

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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 07:01:11 PM »
i wanted a little wider tire on my 750 but ran into problems with it interfering with the brake stay arm. just something to think about. i know yours is a 550 so could be different
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Re: Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 08:05:21 PM »
Just curious does anyone know if its possible to put wider tires..( avons?) On a 76 550 stock rear wheel??

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well my thought is on looks... I did use a 190 on track gixer from the usual 180 and felt no difference. Wondering what the deal is with the older 76 is.   So yea either is fine looks and or grip. I'm not sure how my 550 will handle in some casual aggresive corners yet. Not sure I will enjoy riding it hard in a corner... I will take my time first and see how she handles in casual riding and slowly work my way up on it learning the bikes good side.

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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 10:18:04 PM »
I run a pirelli 180 on my 76550F. Aesthetically pleasing, and does the job just fine.

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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 10:49:18 PM »
I run a pirelli 180 on my 76550F. Aesthetically pleasing, and does the job just fine.

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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 11:24:35 PM »
the swing arm on the 550 has the same width as the 750 but it is an inch or so longer  wider often means taller also unless you use a smaller wider rim
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Re: Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 11:38:11 PM »
Just curious does anyone know if its possible to put wider tires..( avons?) On a 76 550 stock rear wheel??

Are you looking to change for eye candy reasons,  or do you actually want to improve handling and cornering grip?

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well my thought is on looks... I did use a 190 on track gixer from the usual 180 and felt no difference. Wondering what the deal is with the older 76 is.   So yea either is fine looks and or grip. I'm not sure how my 550 will handle in some casual aggresive corners yet. Not sure I will enjoy riding it hard in a corner... I will take my time first and see how she handles in casual riding and slowly work my way up on it learning the bikes good side.


The stock rear wheel is only 1.85 inches wide where the tire seats.  This makes even a 120 width tire, too wide for the rim.  A 4.00 tire will work well and give very good neutral handling (ride and turn without hands on the bars) even after some wear has occurred.

Wider tires will roll and turn well when new.  But, to get rid of the squirmy feel as the tread shifts sideways on the rim due to poor sidewall support, you will have to run high tire pressures to "artificially" strengthen the sidewall.  This results in wearing out the center of the tread during normal use, or "squaring off" the tread section.  Once this occurs, leaning over on the bike shifts the tread contact farther over with respect to the rim center, and you have to fight the bars in turns to keep it turning on your selected line.  No more neutral handling unless it is parked.  Of course then you can drool at the big fat tire on the back, ooo and ahh.  ;D

The bike will take a fatter tire along with a fatter rim, ok.  But, no manufacturer will recommend operating with a 130 or larger tire on a 1.85 width rim.  Salesmen will love to sell you more expensive and wider tires, even if they have to wedge them onto your bike.  They won't explode, and they know you'll have a hard time proving liability if you have an accident with ill fitting tires.

At some width, the chain guard will have tire interference.  I don't know what that is, as I am far more interested in a bike that corners well, instead of one that just looks good in pictures.  I'm a function over form kind of guy.

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Re: Re: Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2012, 07:11:10 AM »
Just curious does anyone know if its possible to put wider tires..( avons?) On a 76 550 stock rear wheel??

Are you looking to change for eye candy reasons,  or do you actually want to improve handling and cornering grip?

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well my thought is on looks... I did use a 190 on track gixer from the usual 180 and felt no difference. Wondering what the deal is with the older 76 is.   So yea either is fine looks and or grip. I'm not sure how my 550 will handle in some casual aggresive corners yet. Not sure I will enjoy riding it hard in a corner... I will take my time first and see how she handles in casual riding and slowly work my way up on it learning the bikes good side.


The stock rear wheel is only 1.85 inches wide where the tire seats.  This makes even a 120 width tire, too wide for the rim.  A 4.00 tire will work well and give very good neutral handling (ride and turn without hands on the bars) even after some wear has occurred.

Wider tires will roll and turn well when new.  But, to get rid of the squirmy feel as the tread shifts sideways on the rim due to poor sidewall support, you will have to run high tire pressures to "artificially" strengthen the sidewall.  This results in wearing out the center of the tread during normal use, or "squaring off" the tread section.  Once this occurs, leaning over on the bike shifts the tread contact farther over with respect to the rim center, and you have to fight the bars in turns to keep it turning on your selected line.  No more neutral handling unless it is parked.  Of course then you can drool at the big fat tire on the back, ooo and ahh.  ;D

The bike will take a fatter tire along with a fatter rim, ok.  But, no manufacturer will recommend operating with a 130 or larger tire on a 1.85 width rim.  Salesmen will love to sell you more expensive and wider tires, even if they have to wedge them onto your bike.  They won't explode, and they know you'll have a hard time proving liability if you have an accident with ill fitting tires.

At some width, the chain guard will have tire interference.  I don't know what that is, as I am far more interested in a bike that corners well, instead of one that just looks good in pictures.  I'm a function over form kind of guy.

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great info... Yea I like my cornering rides and will prob just stick with the regular ones I have on now. Was just curious the info on them . Thanks again.

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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 02:55:12 PM »
Haha! Late night typo. It's really a 120 on my 550

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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2012, 09:54:58 AM »
I am currently experiencing this concern on my build and am in need of an 18" 40 spoke wheel for the current tire I plan on running (Bridgestone Battlax BT-023 160/60ZR18M/C). Does anyone know of a good company to go with so I don't have to sell my first born?

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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2012, 12:00:38 PM »
What size tires are these? stock rim width on this bike?
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Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2012, 01:14:29 PM »
One size up is usually not noticeable in ride quality or wear, and should be ok as far as fitment.  I run a size up on my 350f for past 5 years, no problems whatsoever, different bike but same general rules do apply.

Also run a size up on ex500 and have had it on the track... No issues or abnormal wear, always run recommended pressure.
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Re: Re: Wider avon rear wheel tire ? 76 550
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2012, 01:53:29 PM »
What size tires are these? stock rim width on this bike?

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