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Re: Now What?
« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2012, 04:23:49 AM »
Digital cameras are invaluable for carb dissasembly. Label the parts, keep all the parts for each individual carb together (plastic baggies!) You're probably gonna need gasket kits too. Get the ones from Honda- probably $40-$50. Here's my album of pictures that I hope will help you.

http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss258/accolay_accolay/1977%20CB550F/Carbs/

You can also use the parts references off of many an online OEM parts retailer, such as motogrid. Search for CB550 and then select your model.

http://www.motogrid.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=HOM

...and where are those pictures?  :D

I just want to thank you again for the link to your images.  I found two errors that I had made and was able to go back and correct them.  I thought I was taking pictures and documenting my progress but now I see how I need to do it.
THANK YOU.

I will post pics of the bike tomorrow.

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« Reply #51 on: April 19, 2012, 05:53:50 AM »
No problem. I do what I can. Lots of people helped me out on here when I was new. Just make sure you don't put the carb floats in upside-down :)

Now you need to figure out how to look up to reference and order parts with the parts fiche pictures online and how not to get screwed by buying OEM parts on Ebay that you can get from Honda for cheaper.

Just wait until you get that thing started-it really is something to look forward to.
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« Reply #52 on: April 19, 2012, 05:54:05 PM »
I agree, Parts N More is a good, cheap, source too. Do you not have a camera?
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« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2012, 08:50:51 AM »
Here is a pic of the bike:

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« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2012, 09:12:57 AM »
Alright! Are those tires new (ish)?

Looks like you're gonna need a seat cover. If the seat pan isn't rusted out around the rim I would recommend this seller on Ebay for a new seat cover:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CB550F-seat-cover-Honda-CB550-F-SUPER-SPORT-1975-77-198-/150635602254?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item231294e14e&vxp=mtr
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« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2012, 10:16:11 AM »
Don't know exactly how old the tires are, but the bike has not been TOUCHED (except by mice, rats, and spiders) for about a decade.   I am thinking of how I will be de-rusting the gas tank.  Right now I am leaning toward POR15 and electrolysis.  I have to order the POR15 and wanted to do this over the weekend so I guess I will have to wait...

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« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2012, 10:39:05 AM »
I've never done the POR, but from what I've read it can take more than a weekend to do it right (so it wont come off). I'm sure someone else will chime in on that. How bad is the rust? Maybe try the old toilet bowl cleaner trick first- it's cheap!

Here's a good list of many methods of rust removal to help you think about it:
http://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Removing_rust_from_a_gas_tank
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« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2012, 10:59:24 AM »
Nice project, it will be great when its runing.

There is a DOT code on the side of the tires to tell you when they were made. But if you know it hasn't been touched in 10 years, then no use looking.

You'll need to slide tires to the top of your priorities. Even tires with good tread, and low visible cracking, are beyond service limit over time. That time being 6 years for poor performance and danger, and 10 years maximum.

What happens is they "outgas' important agents which keep the tires soft and keep the plies bonded together. So even a good looking tire can suffer a catastrophic failure just runing down the road. Regardless of the tread depth.

Be careful.
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« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2012, 12:11:13 PM »
Nice project, it will be great when its runing.

There is a DOT code on the side of the tires to tell you when they were made. But if you know it hasn't been touched in 10 years, then no use looking.

You'll need to slide tires to the top of your priorities. Even tires with good tread, and low visible cracking, are beyond service limit over time. That time being 6 years for poor performance and danger, and 10 years maximum.

What happens is they "outgas' important agents which keep the tires soft and keep the plies bonded together. So even a good looking tire can suffer a catastrophic failure just runing down the road. Regardless of the tread depth.

Be careful.

Thanks for the heads up.  If I get the engine running I might have the bike trucked down to New Jersey where I can really work on it better, and ride it more safely.  I haven't ridden in a long time and don't think I want to start again in New York City...

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« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2012, 12:18:02 PM »
kudos for taking the plunge into this motorcycle sickness.  good luck with getting her to fire up!!
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« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2012, 05:40:07 PM »
My 750 sat for a good 20 years and the tank was ruuuuuuusty. I used the washing soda/electrolysis method and sped it up by just emptying the tank each day and restarting the process. It worked very well.
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« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2012, 02:35:17 PM »
Is this the fuel filter?  And if so I am guessing it needs to be replaced...

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« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2012, 02:38:54 PM »
Yeah, just clean it. Soap and water. You probably can't get that screen anymore.
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2012, 07:04:22 PM »
I got a new one for the 75 about a year ago. Can't remember where though. Maybe $30. Can't complain, the original lasted a long time.
I don't have a motorcycle, sold it ('85 Yamaha Venture Royale).  Haven't had a CB750 for over 40 years.

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Re: Now What?
« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2012, 08:08:39 PM »
Nice project, it will be great when its runing.

There is a DOT code on the side of the tires to tell you when they were made. But if you know it hasn't been touched in 10 years, then no use looking.

You'll need to slide tires to the top of your priorities. Even tires with good tread, and low visible cracking, are beyond service limit over time. That time being 6 years for poor performance and danger, and 10 years maximum.

What happens is they "outgas' important agents which keep the tires soft and keep the plies bonded together. So even a good looking tire can suffer a catastrophic failure just runing down the road. Regardless of the tread depth.

Be careful.
+1 the rubber can get so hard on older tires it's like riding on ice..and then just a little oil or antifreeze on the road and you're down on you're skin  :o Scary stuff !
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« Reply #65 on: April 21, 2012, 10:56:57 PM »
Yeah, just clean it. Soap and water. You probably can't get that screen anymore.

It's come apart a bit at the seam, so I will see if I can find a replacement.
I've been gathering the proper parts for the tank "de-rusting" and I have a question.  If I get the rest out do I need to coat the tank with something or can I just put some gas in it?
Thanks.

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« Reply #66 on: April 21, 2012, 11:57:08 PM »
if the tank cleans up and looks solid not pitted much itll be ok unlined,itll pay to knock with say a screw driver handle or some wood to dislodge loose flaky rust,try and use a small dentist type mirror and see inside the tank,if you see pitting id line it.the por takes me at least two weeks.

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« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2012, 07:38:44 AM »
Here is a pic of the bike:
I love that Blue !
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Re: Now What?
« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2012, 01:49:56 PM »
Gonna add my .02.  POR 15 can be done properly in one day.  You will need a hair dryer or heat gun to facilitate the drying of the tank before you put in the sealer.  It's gotta be bone dry for it to stick properly.  Just did my this past year.  Do not get the sealer on you or anything you care about...

Where are you in NYC?  I'm over in northern NJ.  There are a bunch of us getting together next weekend, but it's mostly 750 guys.  Most of them have much more knowledge than myself and more than willing to help out.   You are more than welcome to come on over, although I know most NYC residents despise crossing the hudson.   I'll send you more info via pm.

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« Reply #69 on: April 22, 2012, 01:51:48 PM »
Is this the fuel filter?  And if so I am guessing it needs to be replaced...

I've just seen these for sale at David Silvers.
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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« Reply #70 on: April 24, 2012, 08:29:26 AM »
Is this the fuel filter?  And if so I am guessing it needs to be replaced...

I've just seen these for sale at David Silvers.

I don't see it on the David Silvers site.  I've been looking around at other sites and see "inline" filters but none of what I pulled out of my bike.  Any suggestions on what I should get? 
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« Reply #71 on: April 24, 2012, 08:49:16 AM »
Is this the fuel filter?  And if so I am guessing it needs to be replaced...

I've just seen these for sale at David Silvers.

I don't see it on the David Silvers site.  I've been looking around at other sites and see "inline" filters but none of what I pulled out of my bike.  Any suggestions on what I should get? 
Thanks
I thought they only came with the petcock. My new OEM petcock has it on it.
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Re: Now What?
« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2012, 09:24:56 AM »
I agree with lester. Maybe run water thru it backwards, or low pressure air. Soft soapy water.

Unless you want to pop for a petcock.
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« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2012, 09:26:50 AM »
Here is the filter.   LINK
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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