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Offline jessezm

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brought it home for $300...
« on: April 29, 2012, 05:00:10 PM »
Well, I brought her home today...  See this thread for the background:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=105911.0







That's after a quick wipedown, but I haven't done any real cleaning yet.  I popped off a float bowl and the carbs are clean, but the slides are stuck.  the tank was never drained though and it's pretty gross inside, but it'll clean up.  I didn't notice that bad ding in the front, which totally sucks, but what can ya do.  The seat is perfect.  Brakes are grabbing, and the front reservoir is full of crusty white powder.  Is that what happens to brake fluid?  This bike has been sitting inside untouched since 1984.  Owner couldn't find the title, but he did produce the original bill of sale from 1973!  This is a one-owner bike, and in GA getting it tagged is a cinch.

Finally, I popped in a new battery and turned the key and got power.  All electrics look extremely clean.  Starter button didn't work but I used the solonoid and she turns over fine.  Got my work cut out for me but hey, for $300 it's a damn good start! 

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 05:04:09 PM »
Well worth the $300!
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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 05:05:05 PM »
Nice score!
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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 05:14:23 PM »
Do you have a copy of the Honda Shop Manual or Parts List for your bike? Get one here:
https://www.honda4fun.com/materiale/documentazione-tecnica
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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 05:15:09 PM »
Can I have dibs on the next $ 300.00 750 four that shows up?   ;D

Nice find!

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 05:17:01 PM »
Bill of sale in 1973?  Nope.  Appears to be a '75 or '76 SS

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 05:21:16 PM »
Sorry, meant to explain--he bought it new in '73 and chopped it.  Then hot-rodded the motor and put it in the frame you see in about '82.

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 05:23:44 PM »
put a K motor in an F frame? funny

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 05:25:46 PM »
Fantastic find though.  Love your 400f by the way.  Workin on the same meself.  Very jealous!

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 05:27:08 PM »
According to the owner this is no regular motor.  It was build by a local hot rod guy and is supposed to have a tall cam and overbore high compression pistons, and who knows what else.  The clutch basket is not stock, as he said the stock clutch wouldn't hold the power.  But unfortunately, the burnt that one up, too, and cannot locate the pieces.  So It's going to need a new clutch...

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2012, 05:28:01 PM »
Fantastic find though.  Love your 400f by the way.  Workin on the same meself.  Very jealous!

Thanks!  I will always love the agility and lightness of my 400!  Riding my friend's 750 is a chore!

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 07:23:47 AM »
Is this a stock '73 k3 Clutch basket?



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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2012, 09:49:09 AM »
I have a 77K motor in my 76F frame.. not that uncommon. Nice find!!!!
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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2012, 02:38:57 PM »
Wow!!!! I'd buy that all day long for 300 bux. Only thing is the velocity stacks, when I see those I see engine rebuild automatically, lots of dirty abrasive crap getting sucked up
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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2012, 02:46:54 PM »
Jesse,
     That clutch basket has iron oxide rust..steel one ? ! It looks Strong..;is there any way the PO would let you try to track down his other clutch parts ?
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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2012, 03:11:01 PM »
Way nicer than my $300.00 one ! mine however runs and goes down the road .  I have a couple of clutch baskets and plates I bought for my 74 , 1 complete , and 1 missing the lifter plate . I bought 2 for the lifter plates LOL !
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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2012, 05:49:28 PM »
Jesse,
     That clutch basket has iron oxide rust..steel one ? ! It looks Strong..;is there any way the PO would let you try to track down his other clutch parts ?

 It's definitely a steel basket.  I just don't know if it's stock or not.  The PO said it wasn't, but entrusted all of the motor work to his engine builder, and of course this was in 1976 when he had it rebuilt and he's 73 years old now...  I've been using the googles to try to figure it out--thought someone here may be able to say

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2012, 05:52:07 PM »
Way nicer than my $300.00 one ! mine however runs and goes down the road .  I have a couple of clutch baskets and plates I bought for my 74 , 1 complete , and 1 missing the lifter plate . I bought 2 for the lifter plates LOL !

Well let me know if you want to get rid the extra parts!  Wish mine ran already....

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2012, 10:55:27 PM »
Is this a stock '73 k3 Clutch basket?




That appears to be a K3-K6 clutch basket. The earlier ones that that had a steel collar added on the inner hub, but you'd have to split the cases to see if that was swapped in. The clutch cover and hub MUST come from a K3 or K4 engine (or possibly a late K2, after about 11/72 production) to get the spacing right for the clutch lifter, and to clear the ribs on the hub (which is missing at the moment?). Otherwise the clutch cover and ribs will scrape each other.

You will need a 7-plate (friction plate) clutch, with 6 steel plates. Despite what your friend told you, the OEM Honda clutch was good for 90+ HP, with nothing more than stiffer springs (like Barnett springs). The Barnett clutches don't usually hold that much power down, as they use 1 less plate overall (in my experience). I have replaced many Barnett clutches with Honda's own, and it worked better.

Honda is still selling many of these parts: I just bought some OEM replacements for broken ones I am rebuilding now, from Service Honda. I think they must still fit current bikes. You might wish to use Barnett springs on Honda plates, and make SURE the plates have square-cut corks on them. Many dealers are confused, are sending out the slanted-cork plates because of a snafu in the Honda parts codes since 2005. Those slanted-cork plates are only used in CB500 and as the top plate on the post-1976 CB750 bikes.
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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2012, 04:39:52 AM »
Awesome, thanks for the reply.  These are the only other two pieces that came with the bike:



So no clutch hub or plates.  But what is that outer ring?  I don't see it in the fiche...  I'll take your advice and seek out a '73 or '74 hub and cover, and order the stock Honda disks and plates.  Will Service Honda get it right with the square vs. slanted corks?

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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2012, 05:28:53 AM »
Well, more confusion...  That last picture I posted seems to be a clutch "outer ring,"  Part #3 in the fiche here: http://www.capitolcycle.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=126005&category=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=1971&fveh=2999

That's the 1971 fiche.  It shows up on the 1972 fiche as well, but isn't listed with the other parts, and then in the K3 fiche it isn't there at all.  So, am I to assume, then, that I have a K1 or K2 clutch and buy those parts accordingly (rather than the late '72-'74 parts)?

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2012, 06:35:39 AM »
HondaMan !
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2012, 06:41:38 AM »
Can I have dibs on the next $ 300.00 750 four that shows up?   ;D

Nice find!

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Re: brought it home for $300...
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2012, 11:53:25 AM »
Don't I know it. I'm up to 14 bikes now, and you?    :)

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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2012, 12:06:43 PM »
Awesome, thanks for the reply.  These are the only other two pieces that came with the bike:



So no clutch hub or plates.  But what is that outer ring?  I don't see it in the fiche...  I'll take your advice and seek out a '73 or '74 hub and cover, and order the stock Honda disks and plates.  Will Service Honda get it right with the square vs. slanted corks?
Jesse,
    If you were to remove the clutch outer from the engine & take a picture of the back of it and post it...could be HondaMan will be better able to I.D. it...or someone else will;I think that is the main part of the clutch & it may have a part# on it somewhere,and then when you know for sure about that,you can get the rest of it for the correct K model.
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75' CB400F/'bunch o' parts'
  I love the small ones too !
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