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CB900 were they a good bike?
« on: May 05, 2012, 04:07:45 AM »
I have an offer of a completely dissasembled CB900, I have yet to be given a buy price but am told "cheap" lots of spares, been lying around in a shed for years.
Could be a good project for me, anyone remember these monsters and like the dinosaurs, why they died out? ???
My mate wants the sidecar that comes with it so he will go me halves in the purchase cost and he gets the chair....like who wanted that anyway??? ;D

Found a photo of one in pristine order, think the one I'm looking at has more spiders and rust. ;)
« Last Edit: May 05, 2012, 04:15:02 AM by Hush »
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB900 were they a good bike?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 04:30:48 AM »
Hush, what's it say on the side of the tank?  Have they ever made a bad bike?     lol    I never owned one but got to test ride dozens after working on them-in the day they were a beast, a good one at that ;).  Around Philly the 900 and its big brother 1100 have a good resale value. Only way you could on wrong is if the motor has been taken apart.  Have fun if you get it...Larry

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Re: CB900 were they a good bike?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 05:18:43 AM »
With all due respect to Larry, I had one Hushy, and they were a bit of a disappointment in my humble opinion. Before I bought my "Roller Door" I'd already owned a Kawasaki Z1 and a couple of Suzuki GS1000's, which were the real "Heavy Hitters" of the 1970's Superbike era, and the Honda never really measured up to either of them in mechanical strength or sheer grunt, and had few successes against them on the track, or in the showroom.

They had a really complicated cam chain setup with 2 separate chains and tensioners, and camchain adjustment was difficult and often ignored by owners, so after a couple of years they were usually quite noisy mechanically. Also, they had a pretty weak bottom end and chewed out crank bearings and occasionally broke conrods. Their electrics were suspect, the ignition "black boxes" often melted, stranding their owners, and the OEM FVQ (which apparently stood for "Fade Very Quickly") shocks were rubbish. The brakes were average, they weren't particularly fast, and were prone to oil leaks.

All of the above means nothing of course if you really want one, one of the worst bikes ever built was the early Honda VF750's and VF1000's, but I know a couple of guys who've owned them and loved them, so just like love is blind, love of a particular motorcycle marque can be blind, deaf and.............. dumb. If you want it mate, go and get it, and enjoy! ;D     
 
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Re: CB900 were they a good bike?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2012, 06:03:38 AM »
Hush,
   I think the 900 & the 1100 were a decent bike when ridden on the street and maintained; how many miles on the clock ?
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2012, 09:27:18 AM »
With all due respect to Larry, I had one Hushy, and they were a bit of a disappointment in my humble opinion. Before I bought my "Roller Door" I'd already owned a Kawasaki Z1 and a couple of Suzuki GS1000's, which were the real "Heavy Hitters" of the 1970's Superbike era, and the Honda never really measured up to either of them in mechanical strength or sheer grunt, and had few successes against them on the track, or in the showroom.

They had a really complicated cam chain setup with 2 separate chains and tensioners, and camchain adjustment was difficult and often ignored by owners, so after a couple of years they were usually quite noisy mechanically. Also, they had a pretty weak bottom end and chewed out crank bearings and occasionally broke conrods. Their electrics were suspect, the ignition "black boxes" often melted, stranding their owners, and the OEM FVQ (which apparently stood for "Fade Very Quickly") shocks were rubbish. The brakes were average, they weren't particularly fast, and were prone to oil leaks.

All of the above means nothing of course if you really want one, one of the worst bikes ever built was the early Honda VF750's and VF1000's, but I know a couple of guys who've owned them and loved them, so just like love is blind, love of a particular motorcycle marque can be blind, deaf and.............. dumb. If you want it mate, go and get it, and enjoy! ;D     
 

In my experience, while it is true that both Kawasaki and Suzuki made better bikes during that time, CB900F was not as bad as Terry makes it out to look :) 

I've had many, (two were bought new) and many lived to a very ripe old age with me. I have not encountered  the particular problems of oil leaks, burned out CDIs, broken rods, or bad crank journals. What I did see were bad alternator rotors, burned inside exhaust valves, somewhat troublesome gear changes (there is a pretty effective and cheap fix for that) poor high speed stability, and poor cold starts unless re-jetted. I had a very hard time starting both of my CB900Fs that were practically new at the time, at 5:30AM on colder, damp Bay Area mornings.

All that said, stock for stock, the CB900F IMHO has better suspension (forks in particular...39mm, filly bushed), stronger motor, and much better brakes, than SOHC 750. The alternator rotors do go bad as I already mentioned, but with the lights unplugged, the bike will still get you where you need to go if it is within 50-70 mi...just put a voltmeter on the bike to know when to unplug them. The melting CDIs were because of the poor epoxy, as I had some "melt" while in storage on the shelf :)

The only area of the motor that ever leaked in my experience, was the valve cover gasket and the valve cover bolt grommets that hardened quickly. If both are replaced during a valve adjustment, there is no problem.

BTW, on a CB900 you can replace the valve cover gasket (or do a complete top end) with the motor in the frame, unlike the SOHC CB750, which is a very nice feature. Ex.valves do need to be adjusted lose to not burn them.


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Re: CB900 were they a good bike?
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2012, 02:28:32 PM »
OK I'll see what is on offer, unless it's rebuildable under 3k I'll just part it out. ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB900 were they a good bike?
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2012, 02:30:23 PM »
Never had one. Friends did. I wasn't inspired, nor were they.
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Re: CB900 were they a good bike?
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2012, 04:06:04 PM »
I had a red 900 F2 {500 K's from new}, it was a great bike except for the high speed weave, i almost cured that with a set of Koni's but i looked after mine and it was a good bike. Sold it with 20,000 on the clock and it was still nice and quiet.... ;)
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2012, 12:05:45 AM »
I had a red 900 F2 {500 K's from new}, it was a great bike except for the high speed weave, i almost cured that with a set of Koni's but i looked after mine and it was a good bike. Sold it with 20,000 on the clock and it was still nice and quiet.... ;)

The easiest way to cure that high speed weave was to put a passenger on. For some reason the bike became titaly solid all the way to top speed.

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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2012, 12:13:06 AM »
I had a red 900 F2 {500 K's from new}, it was a great bike except for the high speed weave, i almost cured that with a set of Koni's but i looked after mine and it was a good bike. Sold it with 20,000 on the clock and it was still nice and quiet.... ;)

The easiest way to cure that high speed weave was to put a passenger on. For some reason the bike became titaly solid all the way to top speed.

The Boldor shocks were pretty sh1t straight out of the box, you are right though, it was more stable 2 up....
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2012, 02:07:06 AM »
Are u getting a F or a custom?  Just about 2 completely diff bikes.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2012, 03:29:33 AM »
Are u getting a F or a custom?  Just about 2 completely diff bikes.

Look at the first post.... ;)
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2012, 05:38:56 AM »
Bike is a rolling frame plus 3 spare engines plus 5 wheels a tank and side covers.
$150 the lot, my problem is, what would I build from all this?  :-\
A pristine CB900 is only worth $3k and they don't make good cafe' bikes or choppers.  ???
I'm also short of garage space right now with my S83 and two GSXR250's in there.
I think I'll flag this, too many negatives not enough positives, if this had been a CB750 SOHC4 I would find space for it in my lounge! ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB900 were they a good bike?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2012, 01:11:08 PM »
well, i started buying magazines in 79', when i was 17 and back then those dohcs where all the rage,  was too young to have any memories of sohcs

so maybe these samples will tempt you to?

http://www.bikeexif.com/cb900

http://www.bikeexif.com/honda-cb750-5

http://www.bikeexif.com/honda-cb750f

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Re: CB900 were they a good bike?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2012, 06:41:15 PM »
If it's already disassembled then why not buy it just to sell the parts. You could recuop your investment pretty quickly selling stuff for cheap.
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2012, 07:10:03 PM »
Are u getting a F or a custom?  Just about 2 completely diff bikes.

Look at the first post.... ;)
I did "LOOK" the pic  he found online is a F but Hush never states what he is getting.
Some people are not aware they are 2 diff models.  Sorry wont ask anymore.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2012, 07:15:37 PM »
Are u getting a F or a custom?  Just about 2 completely diff bikes.

Look at the first post.... ;)
I did "LOOK" the pic  he found online is a F but Hush never states what he is getting.
Some people are not aware they are 2 diff models.  Sorry wont ask anymore.

Don't know why you are getting upset dude, i was only pointing out it was an F model, we didn't really get the crappy American models down here... I did put a wink at the end of my post.... shakes head....
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2012, 04:47:14 AM »
Now play nice, it's only motorcycles we are talking here not real life. ;D
I've told the guy I will get back to him and as he lives in another part of NZ he doesn't mine sitting on all this stuff for now, by then I may have shed space for such a project bike. :)
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2012, 04:29:59 PM »
I feel the need to interject as I have had a CB900C for about three years now and truly love this bike. The Custom version was no doubt built to go long distances like the Goldwing. The F version was quite sportier and more a street fighter. Not a unbeatable fighter but certainly a keeper in anyones garage. The motor is very strong. If you like in-line 4 cylinder motors (as I do) it's perfect. I found if you're riding two up it is somewhat anemic but when it's just me, it is plenty of motorcycle. I'll admit the "10 speed" is more a novelty than a functional addition. I just keep mine in low until I am on the highway then shift from 5th low into 5th high making it more like a 6 speed. Mine has the factory Hondaline fairing so it is very similar to the Goldwing in appearance. I wish I could swing by and offer a test spin.

My vote is you should get this bike into your herd. You won't regret it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2012, 04:31:06 PM »
Hush,
    Is it a CB900F or C ?
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2012, 06:58:08 AM »
I'm guessing it's an "F" mate, the "C" wasn't imported into Oz, and I'm guessing NZ was the same as us. Regardless, save you pennies for something better Hushy, they just weren't that good. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2012, 07:02:46 AM »
I feel the need to interject as I have had a CB900C for about three years now and truly love this bike. The Custom version was no doubt built to go long distances like the Goldwing. The F version was quite sportier and more a street fighter. Not a unbeatable fighter but certainly a keeper in anyones garage. The motor is very strong. If you like in-line 4 cylinder motors (as I do) it's perfect. I found if you're riding two up it is somewhat anemic but when it's just me, it is plenty of motorcycle. I'll admit the "10 speed" is more a novelty than a functional addition. I just keep mine in low until I am on the highway then shift from 5th low into 5th high making it more like a 6 speed. Mine has the factory Hondaline fairing so it is very similar to the Goldwing in appearance. I wish I could swing by and offer a test spin.

My vote is you should get this bike into your herd. You won't regret it.
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      Didn't the CB900C have the same engine as the CB900F w/ some extra final ratio gears added for touring/city driving ? A 16 valve DOHC 4 I believe.
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2012, 07:22:34 AM »
Yes, the same motor went into both bikes. I have read about a CB900FZ that was only available in the European market and had a bit more power than the F. Thirty some years later the bike is pretty old school but still a decent ride

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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2012, 07:46:42 AM »
I think w/ reasonable care and preventive maintenance it'll last you for many more years.  :) I have an old Volvo 240 that is able to take lot's of abuse and still hold together.I treat it good though and it rewards me w/ dependable operation.I have the factory service/shop manual and do the necessary work at the time it needs to be done.I've heard folks say about some other very durable machines "It'll run forever;that one's a real workhorse"...but ANYTHING will break w/o the right care.The hard part is I've known a couple guys who have old Volvo's and don't take care of them at all;they are REAL tough machines...but even THEY do break down after a long time. I like to be a "preventive maintenance specialist"..,it's cheaper in the long run  :)
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2012, 07:52:50 AM »
I have an '02 Ford Explorer that is supposed to be the worst of the bunch.  It has been the best car I have had in at least 10 years.  Over 150,000 miles and I get into it trusting it everyday.

Just because it may have poor rating does not mean that the one you get is no good.  :)

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