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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #150 on: November 16, 2012, 11:53:05 AM »
Does anyone know how to remove the black plastic/rubber plugs in the forks and swingarm without destroying them?  I thought I better asking before ruining them.
More puttering in the garage to get rid of almost 50 years of crud and grease. 50 YEARS!?  Ha!
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #151 on: November 17, 2012, 02:10:30 PM »
Sorry Cliff, I haven't got the hang of PMs and must be doing something wrong when replying. USD40 for piston, rings & shipping.
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #152 on: November 17, 2012, 04:50:48 PM »
Done, just need your email address for PayPal. You like you can email me at chalayko@shaw.ca if you want to keep it private. Thanks, Cliff.

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #153 on: November 17, 2012, 05:39:42 PM »
PM sent.
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1976 CB750F1
1978 CB750F2
1972 CB350F
1961 C100 Cub
1962 C100 Cub
1959 C76
1963 C92
1964 C95
Suzuki
1963 M15D 50cc
1961 250TA Colleda
1961 250TA Colleda x 2 primed ready for paint and assembly
Yamaha
1977 DT175E x 2
1978 DT125E
1979 DT125F
1976 DT250E
1978 DT250G
1984 FJ1100
1990 FJ1200

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #154 on: November 17, 2012, 05:54:32 PM »
Payment sent by PayPal just now. Cliff.

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #155 on: November 17, 2012, 06:27:32 PM »
No problem. Payment has come in. Will box them up and post tomorrow (Monday).
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1976 CB750F1
1978 CB750F2
1972 CB350F
1961 C100 Cub
1962 C100 Cub
1959 C76
1963 C92
1964 C95
Suzuki
1963 M15D 50cc
1961 250TA Colleda
1961 250TA Colleda x 2 primed ready for paint and assembly
Yamaha
1977 DT175E x 2
1978 DT125E
1979 DT125F
1976 DT250E
1978 DT250G
1984 FJ1100
1990 FJ1200

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #156 on: November 18, 2012, 12:10:03 AM »
Perfect! Cliff.

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #157 on: November 19, 2012, 12:38:51 AM »
Birthday and Christmas all rolled into one, happy new pistons Cliff.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #158 on: November 19, 2012, 07:23:39 AM »
Thanks Sam! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, pistons! Cliff.

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #159 on: November 21, 2012, 09:20:17 AM »
Thanks Sam! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, pistons! Cliff.

Hmmmmmmmmm, pistons.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #160 on: November 21, 2012, 09:32:06 AM »
I'm definitely following this one.

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« Reply #161 on: November 21, 2012, 09:32:15 AM »
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #162 on: November 21, 2012, 09:54:35 AM »
Now that I have the piston coming all the way from Australia (thanks Krusty), while I'm waiting I'll get busy on the grunt work. This bike has been ridden hard by kids long ago and not cared for very well so the bodywork is in need of a lot of tlc  . Did I mention the last licence plate on it was from 1967? I think it saw a lot of off road stuff after that.  I've stripped the front forks and cleaned almost 50 years of grease and dirt off them. The swingarm looks okay. The frame around and below the battery needs sandblasing first. The rear fender is a mess but fortunately I have a friend that does metal work and he said he would give me some lessons and look over my shoulder while I massage this back to what it should look like. So, out with the sandpaper and off to the blasters.
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #163 on: November 21, 2012, 10:40:47 AM »
Do you know what years of CA77 have compatible exhaust? My friend has a '66 with some rusted pipes and we've been looking at others on ebay, but aren't confident enough to buy one yet.

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #164 on: November 21, 2012, 10:42:39 AM »
Will CA95 pipes fit a CA77?

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #165 on: November 21, 2012, 10:47:41 AM »
no.
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #166 on: November 21, 2012, 07:17:53 PM »
Did I mention the last licence plate on it was from 1967? I think it saw a lot of off road stuff after that.
Make sure you carefully inspect for cracks in the pressed front fork, just below where the bottom triple is welded, the frame at the engine attaching points, and all over the rear swing-arm. I found all the weak spots in a '66 C200 while subjecting it to off-road abuse. Took a licking and kept on ticking, with a bit of welding from time to time. ;D
 I don't think the rubber bits in the leading-links are replaceable; I always thought they were sort of "cast in place", but I could be wrong?
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #167 on: November 21, 2012, 07:38:47 PM »
Thanks scottly! I'll have a close look while I'm prepping them for paint. By the rubber bits do you mean these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/221146609530?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649  I had to wreck one to get it which makes the other one easy to get out. Cliff.

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #168 on: November 21, 2012, 07:49:40 PM »
I meant the rubber front swing-arm parts at the top of the page. Also, in one of the later pics, it looks like a crack near the bottom of the front fork. I've never seen a crack in that area, but as it is near where the swing-arm pivot is mounted, I would take a close look at it.
Bottom left of the first pic on reply 162...
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #169 on: November 21, 2012, 10:43:31 PM »
Ah, now I know what you mean. Those are probably pressed in like the bushings in the swingarm for the bottom of the shocks. You said inspect for cracks. Thanks for the advice. I didn't see any in the front forks yet. I think what may have looked like a crack was a serious scratch. I have come across an interesting situation with the swing arm in the pivot bolt area. The left side must have taken a serious hit at one time. There's a dent in about the 10:00 position above the hole and the metal has separated from the cross tube. I didn't check for wheel alignment front to rear before taking it apart. (Dammit!) The arms are the same distance apart from the pivot bolt hole to the rear, about 7 5/8" and a little tighter than that at the front of the arm. The pivot bolt doesn't slide right through the holes but will with a little persuasion, probably the bushings compressing a bit. I'm not sure what to do with it other than getting the spot welded to be sure it has enough strength. This poor little bike may have actually been a better parts bike but a promise is a promise. Cliff.
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #170 on: November 21, 2012, 11:17:16 PM »
You know Cliff, you aren't alone in turning a parts bike into a rider, but it is an expensive doing so.  While your motives and intensions are honorable, it is not inappropriate to take the bike parts that are really questionable to proceed with to the former owners daughter and explain the difficulties you have encountered if any should present prohibitively costly.

After a certain amount of work has been invested, it is tough to walk away from or change directions. I have been there several times.
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #171 on: November 22, 2012, 08:04:27 AM »
RAFster, she's in Australia now and absolutely thrilled that I got it running and receiving updates on my slow progress - makes it tough to walk away. Parts are fairly cheap with lots of aftermarket parts too and fun to hunt down so I'll plug away at it. The bike's nearly 50 years old and has an interesting history. It's funny to be it's second owner. A group of old guys I meet every week have an interest in it too which keeps me going.
A K0 I got for free would have been better as a parts bike too with many original parts missing. I'm sure it heavily crashed at one point. That's my K0 thread. It was a head scratcher too about what to do but at some point these old things should be saved. No disrespect to my fellow forum members but it's difficult for me to see a fairly good stock bike turned into a parts bike or a cafe/chopper/custom. I think I have enough orphan parts to build a custom which may be a next project.
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #172 on: November 29, 2012, 05:23:35 PM »
Piston pin and rings arrived today, thanks Krusty! Now is the top ring the one with the shiny edges?
I should read the manual! Top ring is chromium plated and rectagular, second ring is mitred on the inside top edge.
Cliff.
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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #173 on: November 29, 2012, 10:15:33 PM »
A valve timing question, I didn't make a note of it when I took the motor apart. The description of how to do it and the pictures in the manual seem to be at odds. I seem to remember reading that the mark on the cam sprocket should be at the highest point and the one on the crankshaft is in a line through the centre of the sprockets. The book says the lower one should be at the lowest point of the sprocket. I don't want to mess this up.
Here's some pics of the way I have it now.
Thanks for any help you can shoot my way, Cliff.

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Re: Magpie's 1964/1965 Benly 150 Twin Project
« Reply #174 on: November 30, 2012, 10:39:35 AM »
Got my question answered - yahoo! Cliff.