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Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« on: June 13, 2006, 07:54:28 AM »
I have a bunch of CB750's, but this is my only sandcast I am so happy! it totally needs to be restored in every possible way, but it will become a cafe racer, so that does not matter! I found it in an old Junk yard out in the middle of nowhere Texas in pile of many other crappy old bikes.

Just $50.00

Whoo HOoo

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2006, 08:05:25 AM »
Cool! Everybody knows that the best thing you can do to a sandcast is to mod it until there is nothing original on it...  ::)


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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2006, 08:09:37 AM »
HELL YEAH!!!   ;D ;D ;D

That's sort of the point, you know?  It is not about $$-value; it is about having a bike I will ride.  Purists sometimes are blind to what really works. 

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2006, 08:17:25 AM »
Sure and original sandcasts nicely restored rev up to about  15,000 to 25,000

Whereas Cafes max out at about 6,000 to 7,000

Bet he's out looking at the tach  ::)

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2006, 08:23:03 AM »
Fang, if it is true sandcast with enough decent original parts you might want to reconsider moding it and simply  put it up for auction whole or in parts as these bikes go for stupid big money.  Use the $ to purchase a less sought after bike and still have enough $ for all the hop up and cafe parts you could desire . . . . . .

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2006, 08:27:20 AM »
C'mon, it´s his bike. It takes courage to go against the grain. While everybody out there is restoring sandcasts, he will mod it and make those purists have a heart attack. After all, he paid just 50 bucks...

Wrinkle tanks are known for having a very bad paint: get rid of it and paint it black with some checkers. The same goes with that ugly pipes and ducktail seats: away with them. A four-into one and a racing seat and you are good to go.


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P.S. Am I the only one who believes this guy is just joking?

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2006, 08:30:38 AM »
Raul

P.S. Am I the only one who believes this guy is just joking?

Actually Raul some of his other posts were rather eloquent and well written. He sure seems to have a love of the old machinery.

Guess we'll see if he's a rebel rouser in the finest Terry in Australia tradition or living under a bridge.

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2006, 08:44:00 AM »
Raul

P.S. Am I the only one who believes this guy is just joking?

Actually Raul some of his other posts were rather eloquent and well written. He sure seems to have a love of the old machinery.

Guess we'll see if he's a rebel rouser in the finest Terry in Australia tradition or living under a bridge.




I have also read his other posts and it seems that Fang knows what he's talking about. Only time will tell, but wouldn't it be great to see a sandcast chopper or cafe?


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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2006, 09:05:41 AM »
If I remember correctly from one of his post over on another board.....its just a frame.

He has another non-sandcast motor and parts he is putting on the frame to build the cafe.....am I right Fang??

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2006, 09:37:51 AM »
How do you tell if it's a sandcast and just what is a sandcast?

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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2006, 09:43:44 AM »
Ahhhhh, newbies....   sandcast refers to the way the motor was made (as opposed to diecast) and refers to the earliest if the 1969 CB750's.....   there are tons of postings on here that can help you out, brother....  as it was only the first few thousand serial numbers made that are "sandcasts", they are considered rare and highly collectable


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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2006, 11:03:59 AM »
How do you tell if it's a sandcast and just what is a sandcast?

If someone pays more for it than you'd pay for your next car, then it's a sandcast.  You'll find sandcast CB500's, CB450's and CB750's on eBay - just search 'sandcast' and you'll see what I mean  ;D
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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2006, 01:11:02 PM »
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The same goes with that ugly pipes and ducktail seats

Excuse me!  >:(

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2006, 02:29:03 PM »
If I remember correctly from one of his post over on another board.....its just a frame.
He has another non-sandcast motor and parts he is putting on the frame to build the cafe.....am I right Fang??
Later,Greg
This is mostly correct.  I have been collecting bits for about seven years. 
I know a little about my SOHC CB750s, I think I have had 17 of them, but this is my first early 1969, low VIN sandcast.   I love these bikes, and there truly are too many people trying to make them perfect again.  That never was my style.  When they were new I would have made it a cafe bike.  Now that it is almost 40 years old I still want to make it a cafe bike.  No big deal.

By the way, the frame looks like someone started to chop it.  Nothing is missing, but there are a few "Sawzall" cuts.  If ever there was an ideal early/mid 1969 frame to race prep and cafe, this is it.  I will TIG repair, remove unnecessary stuff, and then reinforce where necessary.  I imagine this cafe project will end up taking me about two years and cost in the ball park of $5000 to build.  The frame will be nickel coated or nickel powdercoated when I am done.

Again, no big deal.  It just is my thing.  I appreciate everyone's interest, but this will not be a fast nor very interesting project.  Slow, meticulous, eventually perfect to my standards.  I hope to find a set of cases in the 2000 to 4000 range and button a big bore kit onto them.... 

I am almost finished building a special motor right now.  900cc Henry Abe kit, with BIG sleeves, cases machined to hold the cylinders, RC crank, forged rods, heavy primary and cam chains, Big cylinder studs, hot cam, titanium retainers, fat springs, ported, polished and engraved cases, etc etc etc.  Not just the big flashy stuff, but lots of one-off hand made billet parts.  Little things that most folks would not notice.  A fair effort toward a well built engine.

To me this is the stuff of Quality.  I'm not talking about the adjective, but the Form of the idea; the essence and substance from which good proceeds.  I believe in God, and I have a theology of motorcycle.  God created and when done he called it all “very good.”  Creation is a reflection of him.  I too create, and I do it in my image.  I want someone to walk up to one of my motorcycles and say, “this is one hell of a motorcycle; this is the face of God shining down on me.  I want to meet the guy who built that.”  You know, I want my bikes to be a sort of Icon both of myself and the eternal.

Why would I say all of that?  I don't know.  Just to say that I really care about what I am doing.  If I cut and weld a “sandcast” frame and other bits, taking what might have become valuable and in the process of making it beautiful diminish some of its monetary value, then so be it.  Have you ever read the book, The little Prince?
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So when I am in my old leathers, wearing my Davida and Aviator goggles, doing wheelies and sliding through turns and doing burnouts (out in front of WalMart), I'm not just raising hell, I'm embracing the essence of Quality, struggling to live life beautifully, trying real hard to be good.  I'm sort of a Rocker at heart, but I also am a philosopher poet.  I'm trying to be own person out here.  (Please pass the Starbucks....)  I keep hoping that if I THINK about what I'm doing it will make it more meaningful.  I don't care.  Go build your own bike.  Just do it with all you've got or else it will be crap.

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2006, 03:24:12 PM »
fang, last name isn't pirsig is it?
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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
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fang, last name isn't pirsig is it?
Thank you, I deeply appreciate the reference.
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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2006, 08:36:54 PM »
more for the flowery meditations on Quality than anything about the bike you are building.  I don't think Pirsig could touch how you write about your project.
great to see someone so clearly doing what they love,
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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2006, 08:44:51 PM »
Oh Phaedrus - you have truly changed my life. It's good to see that people around here read and more importantly, understood, the foremost (IMHO) book on motorcycling and life in general.

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2006, 08:52:00 PM »
that was beautiful, man.

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2006, 12:10:17 AM »
But if it's just a frame, it's not even a sandcast... You can always get another frame from a latter version. Have a look at the sandcast registry. If you are lucky and somebody have an engine with the same number he will probably be willing to help you out with your mortgage...  ;D


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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2006, 06:29:32 AM »
Raul, there you go again!  For one moment, pretend that in all the world there is no such thing as money.  I will not be persuaded by the vain gathering of wealth to modify my dreams.  Period.  There are OH so many other, better things things to do with my life....  Like build a few nice motorcycles!

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Re: Hot Damn! I got VIN 1003351 for $50!!!
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2006, 07:28:57 AM »
Raul, there you go again!  For one moment, pretend that in all the world there is no such thing as money.  I will not be persuaded by the vain gathering of wealth to modify my dreams.  Period.  There are OH so many other, better things things to do with my life....  Like build a few nice motorcycles!

Peace and grease.
-fang

Cool man, I appreciate your integrity. Way to go!!!


Please keep us posted...

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