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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2012, 12:19:03 AM »
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2012, 01:10:57 AM »
Matt Mattison solved it, your shocks are too short, get some stock length shocks and unless you weigh 600 pounds, it won't rub. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2012, 01:49:29 AM »
 soyboysighs next post in brief

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2012, 02:04:33 AM »
Ha ha, you must love that pic Dave, that's the second time I've seen you post it! ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2012, 02:56:24 AM »
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2012, 02:02:39 PM »
This thread is absolutely HILARIOUS. Golden responses all around.


To cap off the problem, got new Hagon shocks at the longest size they make. PROBLEM SOLVED:


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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2012, 02:19:00 PM »
that color combo is niiiiice 8)
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2012, 02:41:04 PM »


Must be trying out his Dragon voice recognition software...

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2012, 03:17:54 PM »
 " - "cafe racing" which is to say going from Starbucks to Starbucks " I did read the entire post and because I live in Seattle where Starbucks rules - I now know why there are so may Cafe racers around here. WELL SAID
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« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2012, 10:09:36 AM »
SoyBoySigh has gifted us with what is likely the most glorious post ever to grace these forums,  lets not give him too hard a time.. his post really is well written and as well intentioned as it is genuine.
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« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2012, 10:43:10 AM »
SoyBoySigh has gifted us with what is likely the most glorious post ever to grace these forums,  lets not give him too hard a time.. his post really is well written and as well intentioned as it is genuine.

I'm actually surprised it doesn't have as much replies as it does...everyone should know about this thread.

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2012, 10:44:13 AM »
^Can you expand on your thoughts above?  Not sure we quite get the jist of what you are trying to say.  ;D


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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out?
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2012, 11:37:35 AM »
See, these are ALL factors you're not gonna see if you're an underwear model slash part time porn fluffer who's trekking around the Hollywood Hills trying to reassert your machismo after a session of gay-for-pay ass #$%*ing. I can relate to that in a small way, 'cause I rode my bike a couple hours after my vasectomy. Long story.  I won't even get into what the pain killers I take for my back are doing for my colon ... once a week. I'd RATHER be doing gay-for-pay porn.

Easily my favorite part of this meth/speed/coke/caffeine induced rant.

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2012, 11:51:50 AM »
"To cap off the problem, got new Hagon shocks at the longest size they make. PROBLEM SOLVED:"

maybe not. If the extra length of the Hagons is also extra travel, you've got the same problem, though you do have better shocks.  ;D

A visual of your pic is inconclusive. The amount of shock rod visible looks to be close to the amount of free space above the tire.

As has been mentioned a few times. the only way to tell for sure is to remove the springs, reattach the shocks and lift the wheel till it hits the rubber bumpstops on the shock rods.

I've seen so many cafes, bobbers, lowered bikes that must have this problem, just being ignored. A few torn up license plates/taillight assys.

PS: really nice looking! Where'd you get the brake arm? Looks to be a machined piece?
« Last Edit: June 07, 2012, 11:53:42 AM by MCRider »
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2012, 12:31:36 PM »
"To cap off the problem, got new Hagon shocks at the longest size they make. PROBLEM SOLVED:"

maybe not. If the extra length of the Hagons is also extra travel, you've got the same problem, though you do have better shocks.  ;D

A visual of your pic is inconclusive. The amount of shock rod visible looks to be close to the amount of free space above the tire.

As has been mentioned a few times. the only way to tell for sure is to remove the springs, reattach the shocks and lift the wheel till it hits the rubber bumpstops on the shock rods.

I've seen so many cafes, bobbers, lowered bikes that must have this problem, just being ignored. A few torn up license plates/taillight assys.

PS: really nice looking! Where'd you get the brake arm? Looks to be a machined piece?

Thanks for the insight, I'll look into this more.

The brake arm is simply a NOS brake arm, nothing fancy

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2012, 12:36:23 PM »
"The brake arm is simply a NOS brake arm, nothing fancy."

Nothing like my K2 which is chrome. Must be a model change item.
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2012, 03:26:20 PM »
You could also add to the bump stop on the dampner to reduce the shock travel.  Something like two half moons an inch thick made of nylon put between the eye and the stock bump stop clamped or bolted together could do the trick. I have about 4" of travel between my tire and frame and if my total axle travel is longer than 4" I plan on doing the above.  I'd prolly make mine out of aluminum...

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2012, 05:19:35 PM »
i've been following this thread with mounting paranoia since i finished my build last weekend...


there is more travel than it looks, and i tested by having a 200 pound buddy stand on the hoop and try to pogo the shocks into bottoming while i sat on the bike, but now i'm going to go back and do a little measuring.

it could be a long weekend. is it dangerous to wield the cutter with tears in your eyes?
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2012, 06:15:12 PM »
i've been following this thread with mounting paranoia since i finished my build last weekend...


there is more travel than it looks, and i tested by having a 200 pound buddy stand on the hoop and try to pogo the shocks into bottoming while i sat on the bike, but now i'm going to go back and do a little measuring.

it could be a long weekend. is it dangerous to wield the cutter with tears in your eyes?
I've bottomed my shocks only a couple of times. But when i did it was with such force I'd be afraid to think what could happen if any frame part, or improvised bumpstop, got in the way.

Not near as bad as bottoming out the front, where a tankslapper would ensue. But quite a shock (pun) nonetheless.

The more laid down the shock is the higher the effective springrate. That's why yours is tough to bottom by weight. But if it can't pass the geometry test, its an incident waiting to happen.

Yours appear more laid down? But they obviously won't pass the geometry test.
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2012, 06:54:24 PM »
Anthony, can you share your rims? Where did you get and how much if you do not mind?
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2012, 09:05:05 PM »
I don't know if I want to put soyboysigh on a block list or a watch list....

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2012, 08:12:36 AM »
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The more laid down the shock is the higher the effective springrate. That's why yours is tough to bottom by weight. But if it can't pass the geometry test, its an incident waiting to happen.

Yours appear more laid down? But they obviously won't pass the geometry test.

it`s a 1980 cb650, so it`s geometry is a little different (and uglier) than other cb`s. those shocks are really firm, but i take your point.

thanks MCRider for telling me like it is. looks like i`ll be doing some welding this weekend. i`d rather confront the issue this way than finding out on the side of the road with my bike on the other side.
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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2014, 08:16:41 PM »
Hey guys, I know this is an old post but I'm having the same problem.



When bottomed out the tire sticks up about 1/4 to 3/8th's inch above the frame and my seat pan is flush with the frame.



You can see my seat sticking up a hair. I suppose I COULD get taller shocks but I'm a short guy (5'6" on a good day) and I'd be on my toes if I had to raise it up another couple inches and it'll be hard for me to walk it around. The OP mentioned shimming the bump stops so it lessens the travel of the stock shock. I measured it and I'd need about 3/4" of a shim. Is this dangerous or really bad in any way?

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2014, 08:51:53 PM »
"I'd RATHER be doing gay-for-pay porn. Ha ha. Might straighten out the problems with my lumbar spine, to give it a good hammering from the inside surface, that's an angle that even the chiropracters didn't try, back when I was a young guy and having garden-variety back problems. Though, one time I was laying there under some heat lamps, getting a good greasy oily working over from the masseuse who prepped for the chiropracter, who was a real bone cruncher the likes of which so many others never lived up to the standards of let alone the quacks with the stupid spring loaded clicker flicker things #$%*ing rip off that  they ALL are put together, maybe if they'd indicated that something would eventually happen that COULDN'T be "popped back in" as though one's back is a game of Jenga blocks ... ugh ... anyway, he said "I'm gonna go and get a vibrator now, and I'll be right back."

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Re: Benji's Cafe Racer-Anyone bottom out? (HILARIOUS READ)
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2014, 09:18:35 PM »
I really don't understand this frame loop mania that is going on...it's just a bad idea made even worse by guys not doing proper planning and design.  Why the #$%* would you want to hack off the stock rear brace only to replace it with a #$%*tily welded loop and an ugly broken skateboard for a seat that is gonna interfere with your back tire and make your bike ride worse than the cheaply manufactured piece of Japanese crap that it left the factory as in the first place?


Seriously!


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If it works good, it looks good...