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Offline toytuff

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Re: My CB500 Project... (Project: The War Eagle) 6/27/12 STUPID HACKS!!!
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2012, 03:07:06 PM »
Just a heads up member Jessie is very good with carb rebuilds.

Sometimes I just let others do the work for me.   ;)

He will chime in I'm sure.

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Tomorrow, I will attempt to start it!







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Today, two buddies came over and we set to getting this thing started up.  We had some trouble, due to miss wired ignition system.  I used a color wiring diagram that had the coil wired in a different order than the diagram in the Honda Service Manual.

Once it was all re-done, my budy bumped the starter just to make sure it was all hooked up right, and it surprised him by starting up immediately and running on the fuel left in the gas line.

Today is the first time I've heard this bike running, EVER!  It still needs some tuning, but its almost there.  I also need to figure out the cluth.  The cluth handle isn't disengaging the cluth at all.

http://youtu.be/EyQN3JI4duw

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Re: My CB500 Project... (Project: The War Eagle) 07/12/2012 It runs!!!
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2012, 02:47:39 PM »
Congrats!

Can you adjust the clutch at the clutch cover. At the pressure plate? I didn't see it in the pictures.

After that you can fine tune with the cable adjusters. Might have some dry plates since it's been a while since running.

At any rate, great job!

Kudo's!  8)

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Re: My CB500 Project... (Project: The War Eagle) 07/12/2012 It runs!!!
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2012, 10:34:29 AM »
03rangerxlt,

Check out this thread about the 500's clutch... http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=14273.0

I had the fun time of having the clutch get stuck while on the road. When I took my left side cover off I was greeted with parts tweaked, ground down, and in multiple pieces. I have since been trying to design and build a better mouse trap.
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Re: My CB500 Project... (Project: The War Eagle) 07/12/2012 It runs!!!
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2012, 03:05:12 PM »
Oh hell!

So today my buddy who is an experienced rider comes over to look over the bike, and take it on a short test ride in the neighborhood.  We started out by working on the clutch adjustment so we could get the bike in gear without stalling it.  We got that dialed in perfectly, and my friend rolls the bike down the driveway, puts his leather jacket and helmet on, and starts the bike.

Well damn.  It was running like complete crap and getting worse as it sat there.  It required more and more throttle to keep it running until it just wouldn't run at all.  I open the gas cap to see how much fuel is in the bike, and I got a surprise.

The gas tank sealer was all blistered and pealing!  I used the Caswell kit, and it dried very hard.  I was actually quite impressed with the stuff.  I let it cure for 26 hours before putting fuel in it, and it seemed good to go.  I decided to take the tank off the bike, and in the process, splattered gasoline in my eye.  Once the tank was off the bike, the bike ran awesome with the fuel that was left in the fuel lines.  That is a great sign to me, as I don't think the stuff got into my carbs.  But, the petcock is probably all gunked up now.

I called Caswell, and they were as befuddled as I was.  At first, they said I had not properly mixed the stuff, and it must have never cured.  I explained that I followed the directions to a "T" and the sealer had actually hardened to resemble solid plastic.  The guy on the line said that if it hardened that hard, then I had mixed it correctly.  The only thing he could opine was the problem is the possibility there is a fuel additive in the local gas that ate it up.  They are being very helpful and sending out another kit.

So, I am going to have to get the old stuff out, and start the tank over.  Its going to push me back a couple of weeks, but I guess I will push through.

Well damn!
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Sorry to hear about that, but glad you found the issue quickly.  Do they mean "ethanol" is the culprit? See if you can pin them down to what may have caused this issue or it may be ground hog day again soon.  :'(
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I'm very interested in how it takes off the line when you get the tank issue sorted out. I have the same stacks and a decent exhaust but take-offs are crappy.

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I've been doing some research on my issue, and it's not looking promising.    I've narrowed it down to two options, and I'm waiting for one of those options to contact me back.

1. Option 1 is to have a shop that shall go un-named for now recreate the tank using better fiberglassing methods.  This shop will also seal the interior of the tank properly.  This shop is very experienced in fiberglass gas tanks and fiberglass in general.  They believe the interior of my gas tank to be not salvagable.  I'm looking at about $350 for this.

2.  I'm still waiting to hear back about option 2.  I've reached out to a local fiberglass fabricator who specializes in composites for motorsports.  I've presented them with the issue and I'd like to see if they can work it out for an affordable price, if its even possible.
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Hey man, This bike looks kick ass! I am simply drooling over the tank, its awesome. great pity that the sealing did not do the job. Where did you find the tank? I would love to graft this onto my project bike!

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CB500 Project: The War Eagle - One step forward, two steps back. BOOOOO!!!!
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2012, 03:08:58 AM »
Only just found this thread. Wow. What an inspiration. Some great work here my friend. Love the bike :-)


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Thanks for the kind words guys.

The tank is a Benji's Cafe Racer tank.  His stuff is beautiful, but I am wondering about build quality.  I love the lines of this tank/seat combo though.  This tank most likely will be up for sale cheapish if my plan works through.  I wouldn't recomend buying it from me unless you knew how to get the old sealer out, know fiberglass well enough to cut this thing open, scrape it, and epoxy it back together, or know someone to fix it for ya.

Keep your fingers crossed for me gents.  I am probably going to have a tank commissioned for this bike.  Its a bummer though; I wanted the bike done in time to ride it in a charity ride for a co-worker's kid on the 18th.  Bummer!
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I've heard just a dab of crazy glue in a couple of the corners to hold them in place works.  Just enough to hold them though. Don't want that crap getting into your jets.

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So I sent my damaged tank off to Lengendary Motorcycles in Florida after speaking with Dave there.  Some of you might remember that I sealed the tank, but the sealer blistered.  One thing Dave seemed to think was that my tank was way too heavy.  I certainly agreed, the tank was VERY heavy.  It seems there was a lot of bondo used in its construction.  The inside of the tank is also very rough in texture.  One Thing Dave said he could do is make the inside of the tank nicer, and seal it properly.  He apparently took a 3D scan of the tank, and then CNCed the shape out of foam.  He the epoxied it in preperation to make a mold of it. He sent me a pic of the foam mold after its first coat of epoxy.  I am getting excited to get the finished tank in my hands.

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Re: CB500 Project: The War Eagle - Tank progress on pg 2
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2012, 05:21:52 PM »
Minor tank update from Dave at Legendary Motorcycles.  He just sent me this picture of the top of the tank in fiberglass.  He says that he needs to get a laser scan of this to get the tunnel piece just right.  Its great seeing the different steps that go into making this thing.

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Re: My CB500 Project... (Project: The War Eagle) 6/27/12 STUPID HACKS!!!
« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2012, 10:06:06 PM »

As for the attitude I've had when working on the bike, it hasn't been all that good.  Being this is my first motorcycle ever, the learning curve has been pretty steep.  I've hit a bunch of snags along the way that have had me displaying the bad attitude.  I've thrown up my hands A LOT, and said, "I've finally gotten to that point where I am in over my head and can't go any further on my own.  I have then cleaned up my tools and then gone inside moping about how now the project was going to take more time and money that I couldn't afford and it would never get done.  I'm not proud of this attitude. I think it comes from having always had everything happen in a manner that provides instant gratification. And this bike project doesn't deliver instant gratification.  This is something that requires thought, work, and patience to get that feeling of gratification from it.

But, I eventually kick my ass in gear and get dirty working on the bike, and get something accomplished.  And it feels good to step back and see that I just accomplished something with my two hands, and not by using a credit card at a shop!


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Re: My CB500 Project... (Project: The War Eagle) 6/27/12 STUPID HACKS!!!
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2012, 04:37:11 AM »

As for the attitude I've had when working on the bike, it hasn't been all that good.  Being this is my first motorcycle ever, the learning curve has been pretty steep.  I've hit a bunch of snags along the way that have had me displaying the bad attitude.  I've thrown up my hands A LOT, and said, "I've finally gotten to that point where I am in over my head and can't go any further on my own.  I have then cleaned up my tools and then gone inside moping about how now the project was going to take more time and money that I couldn't afford and it would never get done.  I'm not proud of this attitude. I think it comes from having always had everything happen in a manner that provides instant gratification. And this bike project doesn't deliver instant gratification.  This is something that requires thought, work, and patience to get that feeling of gratification from it.

But, I eventually kick my ass in gear and get dirty working on the bike, and get something accomplished.  And it feels good to step back and see that I just accomplished something with my two hands, and not by using a credit card at a shop!


ROFL  A+

HAHAHAHA  Yep!  I had to resort to using the credit card at the shop on this one.  I am not screwing around with fiberglass and epoxy in my garage.  I fooled with fiberglass briefly in college and I hate it!  LOL But yep, you got me on this one. LOL
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Re: CB500 Project: The War Eagle - Tank progress on pg 2
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2012, 11:43:50 AM »
The build looks great so far, I hate to hear about the tank issues you're having, especially considering the amount of cash dropped on that tank to begin with.

Has anyone breached the subject of whether or not you are an Auburn fan? (judging by the name and the southeasterly location) If so, Roll Tide. If not, still Roll Tide! Looking forward to watching this build progress!

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Re: CB500 Project: The War Eagle - Tank progress on pg 2
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2012, 06:08:14 PM »
War eagle!!!
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Re: CB500 Project: The War Eagle - Tank progress on pg 2
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2012, 06:45:08 AM »
I've been getting updates from Dave at Legendary Motorcycles on the tank progress.  Its been cool seeing the process as the tank gets assembled.

In this pic, the tank tunnel mold has been carved by a CNC machine and is being prepped for fiberglass.


And here are the two halves being joined...
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Re: CB500 Project: The War Eagle - Tank progress on pg 2
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2012, 01:08:49 PM »
ah! That's horrible luck with the tank. I hope you're new tank works out better. I'm actually waiting on a tank from benji also and am a little worried about the quality as well. I just loved the look so much I'm risking it.

Your bike looks fantastic. As a first time builder also, you're inspiring me to stay motivated and not get down when I run into issues.

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Re: CB500 Project: The War Eagle - Tank progress on pg 2
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2012, 01:21:12 PM »
Thanks brother!

As far as the Benji tank, just do your research when it comes to sealing the thing.  The stuff sure does look beautiful on a bike though!

The issues give you something to feel proud about when you fix 'em!
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Re: My CB500 Project... (Project: The War Eagle) 6/27/12 STUPID HACKS!!!
« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2012, 04:21:44 PM »

HAHAHAHA  Yep!  I had to resort to using the credit card at the shop on this one.  I am not screwing around with fiberglass and epoxy in my garage.  I fooled with fiberglass briefly in college and I hate it!  LOL But yep, you got me on this one. LOL
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 I really enjoyed the candor, spot on, and the storyline overall, I think you're doing quite the job digging in deep on the first try.
Can we hear about "the attitude" right after the fantastic plastic usage ? (  ;D just kidding ! )

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Re: CB500 Project: The War Eagle - Tank progress on pg 2
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2012, 05:44:46 PM »
Your bike looks really awesome! I'm not 100% sure but those bar end mirrors look like a pair that i bought from dime city. I buy a ton of stuff from them with no problems, but i had both of my mirrors vibrate out of my bars. keep an eye on them ! I looked down at one just in time to see it flying away  :(
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Re: CB500 Project: The War Eagle - Tank progress on pg 2
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2012, 05:15:55 PM »
Got two more pictures e-mailed to me today.  This thing is looking good!!!



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