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Venus will be transiting the sun Tuesday from 5pm till sunset (time and date will vary depending on location).  It happens in pairs (2004 and 2012) eight years apart and then the next pairing is 120 years. One of the rarest of predictable astronomical events. Get yer goggles on and find a nice spot to view the sunset (or sunrise).
2004 transit.  This one will cross the upper limb of the sun.


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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2012, 12:11:33 PM »
Historical perspective

    On August 12, 1768, His Majesty's Bark Endeavour slipped out of harbor, Lt. James Cook in command, bound for Tahiti. The island had been "discovered" by Europeans only a year before in the South Pacific, a part of Earth so poorly explored mapmakers couldn't agree if there was a giant continent there ... or not. Cook might as well have been going to the Moon or Mars.
   Their mission was to reach Tahiti before June 1769, establish themselves among the islanders, and construct an astronomical observatory. Cook and his crew would observe Venus gliding across the face of the Sun, and by doing so measure the size of the solar system. Or so hoped England's Royal Academy, which sponsored the trip.
   The size of the solar system was one of the chief puzzles of 18th century science, much as the nature of dark matter and dark energy are today. In Cook's time astronomers knew that six planets orbited the sun (Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto hadn't been discovered yet), and they knew the relative spacing of those planets. Jupiter, for instance, is 5 times farther from the Sun than Earth. But how far is that … in miles? The absolute distances were unknown.
    Venus was the key. Edmund Halley realized this in 1716. As seen from Earth, Venus occasionally crosses the face of the Sun. It looks like a jet-black disk slowly gliding among the Sun's true sunspots. By noting the start- and stop-times of the transit from widely spaced locations on Earth, Halley reasoned, astronomers could calculate the distance to Venus using the principles of parallax. The scale of the rest of the solar system would follow.
    But there was a problem. Transits of Venus are rare. They come in pairs, 8 years apart, separated by approximately 120 years. Halley himself would never live to see one. An international team did try to time a Venus transit in 1761, but weather and other factors spoiled most of their data. If Cook and others failed in 1769, every astronomer on Earth would be dead before the next opportunity in 1874.
   Cook's expedition is often likened to a space mission.  The Endeavor was not only on a voyage of discovery, it was also a laboratory for testing the latest theories and technologies, much as spaceships are today.

   Secret orders from the Navy instructed him to leave the island when the transit was done and "search between Tahiti and New Zealand for a Continent or Land of great extent.  For much of the next year Endeavor and her crew scoured the South Pacific, searching for a continent that some 18th century scientists claimed was necessary to balance the great land masses of the northern hemisphere.  Along the way Cook met the fierce Maori of New Zealand and the Aborigines of Australia (encounters both races would lament in later years), explored thousands of miles of Kiwi and Aussie coastline, and had a near-disastrous collision with the Great Barrier Reef.
   
The event will be web cast, broadcast, and targeted by innumerable sidewalk telescopes. In other words, you can't miss it. Look into the inky black disk. It can carry you back to a different place and time: Tahiti, 1769, when much of Earth was still a mystery and the eye at the telescope belonged to a great explorer.

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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2012, 11:33:13 AM »
I really want to see this since it won't happen again for another 100 something years, but I think its going to be cloudy and #$%*ty here in New England.  Stupid Canadian storm is mucking everything up.  :'(
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2012, 11:50:26 AM »
no viewing for us, bloody southely storm.
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2012, 01:47:01 PM »
farkin' PNW liquid sunshine  >:(
this would be cool to see.
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 02:02:11 PM »
farkin' PNW liquid sunshine  >:(
this would be cool to see.

Yep we miss out on most things astronomical.
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 12:04:01 AM »
It was cloudy all day here as far as I know, thanks for the photos.
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 06:07:02 AM »
very cool photo srust58, makes you feel kinda small.....
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2012, 03:42:11 PM »
+1 thanks for the photo. was looking forward to it but cloudy here last few days.

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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2012, 05:39:35 PM »
very cool photo srust58, makes you feel kinda small.....

Venus and Earth are about the same size...so, yeah. ;D   Good old Sol is a relatively minor star commonly known as a yellow dwarf.
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2012, 06:24:18 PM »
I wonder what Uranus would look like if it transited the sun?   ???
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2012, 06:50:41 PM »
I saw it yesterday through a telescope filter.  Very small, but kinda cool!

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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2012, 06:56:55 PM »
I stacked two lenses in a welding helmet. It was very cool to see it. I was watching the nasa channel and their telescope showed it reversed so I was surprised to find it at 1 o'clock rather than 7.
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2012, 07:05:36 PM »
I stacked two lenses in a welding helmet. It was very cool to see it. I was watching the nasa channel and their telescope showed it reversed so I was surprised to find it at 1 o'clock rather than 7.

It was at 1 o'clock for me as well through the telescope filter.

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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday (more photos added)
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2012, 08:02:45 PM »
Earlier in the backyard Eric's 500mm set up and my telescope with camera attached in the second pic.  With my damaged solar filter this was the first incarnation of a solar filter.  We each took one lens from a pair of eclipse glasses.  This was okay when the sun was high but as it dimmed during sunset we switched to the pop tart mylar. Not too bad for makeshift equipment. ;D  Third pic is my wife Jackie with the other pair of glasses. 





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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday (more photos added)
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2012, 10:10:00 PM »
I wonder what Uranus would look like if it transited the sun?   ???

With Uranus it's always hard to tell if the comment is serious or a joke.  Maybe if it's a joke spell it Yeranus.;D  Otherwise since you need to be on Neptune or Pluto better bring warm clothes. ;) And now they kicked Pluto out of the club too. >:(
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday (more photos added)
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2012, 04:25:45 PM »
It was a joke.  Uranus always seems to be the butt of jokes...    I was into astronomy as a kid.  I bought my kids a telescope a few Christmases ago but unless you want toys, you got to pay up when it comes that that stuff...
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday (more photos added)
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2012, 11:04:54 PM »
It was a joke.  Uranus always seems to be the butt of jokes...    I was into astronomy as a kid.  I bought my kids a telescope a few Christmases ago but unless you want toys, you got to pay up when it comes that that stuff...

With telescopes it's all about the mount and tripod.  My equatorial mount was as much as the telescope itself.  Far too many people get turned off after their experience with Walmart or discount store cheapies which are  worse than useless and belong in the trash.   $4-500 is the starting point.  My stuff is a bit more vintage than the computerized scopes of today but I am sure I have $1600+ into the whole kit.
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Re: Another rare astronomical event on Tuesday (more photos added)
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2012, 11:34:44 PM »
Wasn't visible in Spain. Weather forecast says it will be sunny in 100 years, so I'll catch it next time... :-)