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Where does the CB500 rank?
« on: June 09, 2012, 08:10:37 PM »
I am going to pick up a very nice 1972 cb500 tomorrow morning. I was just wondering where this bike ranks among the vintage Hondas. I have heard good and bad, and wanted to get some opinions. I am not 100% sure if I will be keeping it or re-selling it after some minor restoration. Thanks

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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 08:17:21 PM »
I think they're a hot lookin boke. Kind of a sled tho.

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Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 08:18:19 PM »
I think they're a hot lookin boke. Kind of a sled tho.

What's a "sled"?

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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 08:23:14 PM »
I wouldn't ever call one a sled. With good tires and decent shocks they can really carve some corners. They'renice and smooth in stock form too.
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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2012, 08:23:55 PM »
The 500's are good bikes. The thing to check is the tranny and the clutch.

There are many threads on this, start here...


http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=88786.0
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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2012, 08:28:02 PM »
A sled?  Really?  Personally, I think they're the best of the lot (SOHC4's).  Lighter, nimbler, and just as fast as the 750's...Bigger, and more solid feeling than the smaller fours.  I really prefer the 500...of course mine does have a CB650 camshaft ;)

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2012, 08:37:32 PM »
Greggo - best of the lot?  That's a steep claim.  I know you have a good one, but many guys have had major issues, unlike the other SOHC's.
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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2012, 08:52:10 PM »
Greggo - best of the lot?  That's a steep claim.  I know you have a good one, but many guys have had major issues, unlike the other SOHC's.

Yep...it's a big claim, I know ;) I can only speak to my preferences, which that bike seems to suit perfectly.  I know some guys have had issues with the transmissions, but mine's been pretty solid.  The clutch lifter rod, and cup are definitely two weak points, but they seem to do fine under most circumstances.  And, let's face it...there are plenty of CB750 guys whose transmissions slip out of gear under load...which seems to be the worst symptom of those weaknesses in the 500. 

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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 09:27:33 PM »
Just bought one,1971 CB500 a few weeks ago that I am interested to see how it runs and rides when I get it prepped.Looong time 750 Guy so for me and my taller body size etc I think it will not be a good fit ,but would like to experience its cornering and feel as well as its power band.May end up being a Keeper.
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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 09:28:44 PM »
the 500 is nowhere near as fast as the same year 750. It wouldn't even be a contest. They do handle tho.

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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2012, 09:32:42 PM »
Let's give Greggo a break since he just rode his first 750 about 2 weeks ago.

Plus, he has an incredible 500 turbo Bonneville bike
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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2012, 10:18:11 PM »
I think the 500's look great, i want one with a 650 engine in it.... ;D   Yep, i just can't leave things alone... ::)
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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2012, 12:03:33 AM »
they aint no sled,depends who owns it,,how its fettled and how its ridden.,they are a top little bike,,i like them over the 350 and 400 looks wise but im biased.

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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2012, 12:08:32 AM »
whatever. I think it's probably the prettiest one in that style and era for honda, but let's get real, bone stock it's kinda sleddy.
 It's 450 lbs and makes almost 48 BHP when it was brand new.. shed a solid 8 of those for wear and tear... and it just gets out of its own way.

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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2012, 01:06:07 AM »
whatever. I think it's probably the prettiest one in that style and era for honda, but let's get real, bone stock it's kinda sleddy.
 It's 450 lbs and makes almost 48 BHP when it was brand new.. shed a solid 8 of those for wear and tear... and it just gets out of its own way.

I wish, if a city inspector comes around the yard  mine has to get out of the way, too. It's locked up and crusty, but I guess that's the PO's's faults.
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2012, 06:20:51 AM »
Well, I'll post some pics when I get it home and let you fellas decide. The problem is I need a project and this bike doesn't need anything:)

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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2012, 06:38:46 AM »
I doubt it's this one he's going to check out. Prices are up on these too...


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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2012, 06:53:15 AM »
Back in the seventies the CB500 was the bike that made the boss of Porsche sigh: "This will be the bike of the century." You know Porsche, don't you? Eventually it became the 750, but insiders and mechanics always have praised the 500 as a better design over the 750. It was imitated in detail by Benelli (500 Quattro). Do a Google picture search or have a look here http://data.sohc4.net/AR500/CB500Benelli.pdf. It was told that when at that time Benelli hired a new boss (he came from either Lamborghini or De Tomaso, I always forget) to reform Benelli his first instruction was to make a copy of the CB500. So they did. Also the famous Benelli Sei (with six pipes) was nothing but 1.5 X CB500. Benelli, btw, was the first to acknowledge this. In those days BMW wanted to quit making motorcycles altogether but later changed it's mind. The British motorcycle industry was nearly dead.
Even the Chinese made a copycat. When? 1995! 1995! http://data.sohc4.net/AR500/cb500_copy.pdf
The CB500 was copied by Suzuki and Kawasaki who couldn't think of anything else than to offer 50cc more. The 500 Four is an icon and will be in the historybooks, next to the piramids. Am I biased after 33 years and a ton more? You bet I am. You can outrun a heavier bike of that period in the twisties. Personally I don't believe in bigger bikes. 99% of the time you ride them with the same output as a CB500. So most of the time you are overweight. Have a look at that recently posted video of someone enjoying his CB400 http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=108226.0. For me that's what motorcycling is all about. Free, in the open, no fairings, no screens, nothing to distract you. I always get lots of energy from it. Í never ride two up. If I had to buy a new bike today, it would again between 400-650 cc, max. weight 200kgs.
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2012, 08:22:48 AM »
No dice, just didn't get a good vibe. Pipes were great. Both covers cracked, seat ripped. Cold blooded, but a good runner. If anyone is interested I'll pass along the info. Here are some pics, asking price is $2200.

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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2012, 08:36:48 AM »
I'd have to say the 550's were better because of the clutch design.  I recently popped a 550 motor into my 500 frame and it is fantastic.  And as for it being a sled, my bike only has a webcam in it and its a little screamer.  From a dead stop I can get to 70MPH easily by the end of the entrance ramp, and it still has 4000 more RPM on the tack and two more gears to go through.

And this bike is so easy to handle.  I've beaten many newer crotch rockets in the corners.  Its always funny to see them fly by me and then we hit the curves and I pass them back and then they hit a staight away and they are gone again.
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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2012, 08:46:24 AM »
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No dice, just didn't get a good vibe.
What?! After all I wrote above?!
Below comparison test Benelli Quattro and CB500Four.
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Re: Where does the CB500 rank?
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2012, 10:28:27 AM »
Sounds like you made the right choice. 

If you are looking for a project, have you seen this K5?  Been for sale for awhile, he may take $600.

http://syracuse.craigslist.org/mcy/3057794559.html

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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2012, 03:30:31 PM »
Haha , I looked at that 750 this morning too! His bottom number is $800. The whole bike was douched in oil. A good project though :) I might still bite.

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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2012, 03:34:04 PM »
The whole bike was douched in oil.

Better than rust, no? 

Re that 500.  If he'd have gone down to 1800 I would've bought it ;)  Was it titled?

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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2012, 03:43:10 PM »
He was asking $2400 and I offered $2000. His bottom number was $2200 so I decided to walk.