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Offline cabrala

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Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« on: June 10, 2012, 01:08:10 PM »
Decided to start a project...my 1978 CB550 (see project thread soon). It was a parts bike to the previous owner, but most is still there. Went to check for spark yesterday I am missing the ignition coil assembly. Is this an opportunity to buy a Dyna or Hondaman ignition system?? I am not really up to speed on those products, but I do know that they exist as options to the stock setup.

All feedback is welcome and much needed  :P
-Alex

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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2012, 01:24:48 PM »
Generally speaking, the coils and (electronic) ignition is two different parts.

The coils (two) are located under the fuel tank and the spark plug leads are attached. Is this what you need?  Unless you are building a high performance engine, the stock coils work great and rarely fail.

The ignition is located on the side of the engine behind the chrome cover. There should be two sets of points and condensers, if stock. Dyna makes an electronic version that replaces them. Hondaman makes a kit that modifies it.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2012, 01:40:02 PM »
Absolutely clarified my confusion. I am missing the coils under the tank along with my spark plug leads. Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss some grand opportunity to pick up better than stock parts. Thanks Stev-o.
-Alex

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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 01:56:35 PM »
the stock coils and leads are one unit,dyna coils you can remove the leads.

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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 02:59:59 PM »
Have you checked the for sale threads on this forum?

You could also start a coils needed thread in the parts wanted section.
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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2012, 08:03:44 PM »
I skimmed through the "for sale" threads today, but nothing screamed at me. I'll keep digging and post in the "wanted" section. In your opinion, is this something I should buy new? Or are the used just fine? Shoot, I don't even know if the assembly is available new, but I appreciate the direction.
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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 08:24:17 PM »
Likec stated earlier, these rarely fail so I would buy used. (that's how I got my spares)

Call the dealer and see if available and ask price.

Here are some just to give you an idea...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/77-HONDA-CB550-COIL-PACKS-SET-/280853329691?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item416429b71b&vxp=mtr#ht_3048wt_692
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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 10:20:22 PM »
ME' I would buy used coils from here if you go that route think you might get some more honest guys here then Ebay-could end up with that failed set of coils, If you do replace with new aftermarkt black dynatech 5ohm coil 7mm splug wire some ngk spark plug caps
http://www.dynoman.net/ignition/dynacoils.html
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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 11:40:25 AM »
Options, options, options. Appreciate it guys. I'll keep my fingers crossed that something pops up around here as used is the way I'd like to take this.
-Alex

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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2012, 01:13:21 PM »
The coils are designed and made by man, so they can certainly fail, particularly when abuse (by man) is involved.  But, nothing lives forever, not even the sun.  The output lead insulation can get hard with age and lose flexibility.  This is not so much of an issue while installed, but moving the leads during maintenance can cause the insulation to crack, leading to high voltage leakage and ignition problems.

Shipping aged coils with hardened lead insulation, can lead to cracks, too.  So, consider that when buying used coils.

If the leads crack AT the coil junction, the assembly is quite compromised.  If there is enough good lead, NGK makes splice unions to graft new flexible leads onto the old stubs.

If there are hatchet marks in the coils, they will need to be renewed.  For the 550, just about any 5 ohm coil primary, dual output coil will "work", electrically speaking.  The stock ones are optimized for the needs of this machine.  There are those that will tell you it needs an "upgrade".  But, most are just repeating folklore without a real understanding of how the ignition system works or what the functional needs really are.  I have several sets that prove they work fine for more than 30 years.  I also have one coil where the output lead insulation cracked at the coil, (most likely my bad) rendering that coil a "bad" assembly.  I'd wager the coil itself is fine.  One day, I'll splice new, steel strand core wire onto it and put it back into service.  However, steel strand core, 7mm wire is not easy to get, unless I buy a whole spool. $$$

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Re: Ignition Coil Assembly - '78 550
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2012, 01:20:53 PM »
Thanks TT. Always a pleasure when you throw some knowledge my way. I'll keep it in mind as I continue my search.
-Alex

'75 CB750F
'77 CB550K
'78 CB550
'93 FZR600

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