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Offline mr.brandon

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wits end..please help
« on: June 19, 2012, 02:12:37 PM »
got a 74, chop. cb750 replaced engine..went back to points.runs alright for awhile.30 min. get on highway about 15, that is how long it takes from my house, starts poppin' battery keeps draining.jump it battery drains again not sure if it is regulator/rectifier, but puts 13/14 when charged.

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Re: wits end..please help
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 02:42:01 PM »
You need to slow down.

"but puts 13/14 when charged."

Almost not readable.

When the bike is sitting at home how many volts does the battery show when tested?
Engine OFF.
?????

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Re: wits end..please help
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 02:46:10 PM »
 "but puts 13/14 when charged".
What does this mean and tell us what test you have done so far. You really did not tell us a whole lot and what you did was not very clear.

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 05:20:44 PM »
Maybe he was the child left behind???? ;)

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Re: wits end..please help
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 05:34:23 PM »
Battery may be bad.  If you're seeing between 13 to 14 volts when it's running from the charger, assuming you've revved it up to 2000rpm+, that's nominal although nearer 14vdc is desirable.

Do a load test as follows to see if the battery is any good:

- charge the battery up so that, 1 hour after you remove the battery charger, the battery reads between 12.55vdc and 12.65vdc.  REASON:  each of the 6 cells puts out 2.1vdc, and 6  x  2.1 = 12.6vdc, so if the battery is any good at all - you must be able to see it at very near 12.6vdc.  And NOT immediately after removing the battery from your trickle charger.  Let it set for 1 hour then check it.  If after 1 hour you can never achieve 12.55vdc to 12.65vdc, battery is no go.

- p.s.  a battery that is in poor shape loses any charge you put on it *fast.*   Yesterday I read a Yuasa battery (from a decrepit cb750 '71 I just bought) -- I read the battery 1 hour after pulling the charger off, it read 12.4vdc -- bad sign there because that was the closest by charging it I could get it to 12.6vdc.  Well it dropped down to 4.7vdc in just a few hours. 

- if you can get the battery to read 12.55vdc -> 12.65vdc one hour after removing the trickle charger, put the battery in the bike and hook it up.  Get your voltmeter handy.  Now turn the key on but DON'T START THE BIKE.  Just make sure the light and dashboard lamps have come on.

- now with the ignition on, but engine not running, read the battery.   The battery is 'under load' right now -- it's providing power to the lights etc.

- If the battery drops well below your 12.6vdc,  your battery is no good.

Battery plates lose material over time and become unable to hold a charge.
So even though your charging circuit's putting out 13-14vdc, if the battery is no good, it doesn't matter.

Now luckily your charging circuit seems like it's in good shape.  When you get the battery issue sorted out, rev the bike to 2000rpm+ and verify you're seeing close to 14vdc across the battery -- meaning your charging circuit is fine.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2012, 05:37:06 PM by Hondawggie »

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 05:40:19 PM »
Thank you Hondawggie 8) 8) 8) 8)

That is a very simple and well written explanation that a lot of members should appreciate  :) :) :) :) :)
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Re: wits end..please help
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 07:20:00 PM »
Thanks O.S.   The one thing I forgot to say -- its probably obvious --  but if your battery is losing charge while your running the bike it will not run long, symptoms you seem to be having.


Mr. B it sounds like you already know this though, but battery losing its charge then not enough juice to fire the plugs and poor running.   Good luck getting that fine beast going.