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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2012, 07:54:46 PM »
Has anyone drug their center stand while driving?  I did some hard driving in my youth, and I don't remember the center stand being an issue.

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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2012, 07:59:45 PM »
Has anyone drug their center stand while driving?  I did some hard driving in my youth, and I don't remember the center stand being an issue.

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On the CB750 with stock pipes the CS was carried kinda low, and would routinely drag the left side. Not an issue with a 4-1 pipe. That allowed it to come up just a smidge more.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2012, 08:06:43 PM »
Thanks MC. 

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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2012, 08:25:49 PM »
Has anyone drug their center stand while driving?  I did some hard driving in my youth, and I don't remember the center stand being an issue.

Harry O.
On the CB750 with stock pipes the CS was carried kinda low, and would routinely drag the left side. Not an issue with a 4-1 pipe. That allowed it to come up just a smidge more.

Wow, that is a new one on me, in 38 years of riding the 750, I have yet to drag the cs once. foot pegs sure, but never the cs. you would really have to have that baby leaned over to catch the cs....fmeeotb
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2012, 08:16:12 AM »
Mine came with kickstand only and I was very happy when I was finally able to put one on - after changing exhaust. Makes everything easier and the weight is nothing compare to mine 240+ pounds.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2012, 09:05:47 AM »
OH YEAH,
I'll bet that people that use side stands only have skid and yeller marks in their underwear.
And pick their nose a lot and eat it.
I don't wear underwear and I'm a pick and flick kinda guy.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2012, 09:06:35 AM »
Mine came with kickstand only and I was very happy when I was finally able to put one on - after changing exhaust. Makes everything easier and the weight is nothing compare to mine 240+ pounds.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2012, 09:14:13 AM »
I wish I had one on my 78, somewhere a PO removed it. When the 4-1 went on is my guess, I'd love to have one for maintenance around the garage.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2012, 10:03:19 AM »
I had one bike without a center stand and that was due to a PO.  I remember taking my first long ride on that bike, it was about a 1700 mile round trip.  It was really aggravating to oil the chain - hold onto the handlebar and roll the bike forward while spraying chain lube.  I found a center stand on ebay and installed it.  Much better now. :)

If you use your bike for short rides around town all the time and always have it at home by the time the chain needs adjusting or oiling then you probably won't miss having the centerstand too much.  If you take some trips you may find that at the end of the day it is really worth it to have a center stand. 

Personally, my bill fold is a mess, but I do take some pretty long rides and I prefer having the center stand.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2012, 02:45:18 PM »
I use my side stand more than my center stand on both my 750 KO and K6. But when it comes to cleaning the back wheel  and oiling the chain nothing beats spinning the rear wheel while its on the CS for easy cleaning and putting on chain lube. My K6 is fairly easy to pull up on the CS, but for some reason the KO takes more grunt and muscle to bring it up on the stand.
Hope this doesn't seem like a hijack... You might wanna take a good look at the frame cross tube where the CS tabs are mounted. I posted something about this a few years ago; seems a few K0 and K1 owners had the same problem. Mine rotted from the inside rendering the CS useless. I think maybe there were no evap holes drilled at the factory?
That said, I would prefer to never own a bike that I do ANY sort of work on that doesn't have a centerstand.

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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2012, 02:51:26 PM »
Removing it seems more fashion statement than anything else.  Granted it's not the prettiest accoutrement on the bike.  But the idea of removing it so it doesn't dig  is just wishful thinking that you are a far more badass driver than reality.  Never done it in 33 years.  To save weight? Well the few pounds you save removes it from very low on the bike.  That 3 pounds is amplified by the distance from the center of balance so it has a greater effect in raising the center of balance.  I guess we are back to fashion. ;D
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2012, 03:43:43 PM »
3 pounds only? Anyway that's still a fair percentage of my body weight. Hell I even remove my false teeth and glasses when I ride.  ;D
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2012, 04:29:27 PM »
i use my center stand constantly. everytime i park the bike for an extended period of time. and it works far better than the sidestand on a soft surface.

a member over at CB750C.com said this, which really makes sense to me...kirk out

leave your bike 30 miles away, walk home get your centrestand , then walk back, fix your bike
 

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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2012, 04:30:24 PM »
3 pounds only? Anyway that's still a fair percentage of my body weight. Hell I even remove my false teeth and glasses when I ride.  ;D

I was just guessing from the centerstand I have laying about from my disassembled XS650.  I think from a previous post you don't weigh all that much.  Me I am only 160 at best so figuring I weigh less than most I don't worry about removing useful bits from the bike to save weight. ;D

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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2012, 05:18:39 PM »
I have both and use both.  When i first got the CB750, I left it on the sidestand and was backing my 77 Monte Carlo into the garage.  I had just finished putting the car back together after a restoration.  I opened the door as I was backing up to see and caught something on the bike.  I knocked the bike over and the handlebar grip put a small crease in the quarter panel.  After that the bike sits on the centerstand when in the garage. 
As far as the floor goes, I have wall to wall carpeting.  I was driving past a credit union and they were changing the commercial grade carpet.  I loaded it in my truck and installed it.  If I have any torch work I do it outside.  Beats standing and sitting on the bare concrete.  It's been there about 37 years.  It has oil stains and other droppings from the bikes and the car, but for free who cares.  I even vacuum the garage a couple of times a year.

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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2012, 11:01:41 PM »
The CS scares me. I dont like the idea of my bike parked with the rear tire off the ground.What's to keep it from rolling? I put it on for cleaning and chain lubes only. I think it is a cool feature,but not something I would want to look at everyday.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2012, 12:04:28 AM »
Hell, I can't even get my 750 on to the damn CS!

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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2012, 01:06:02 AM »
I use the CS all the time when in the garage. Easier to get to both sides of the bike for me. I think it looks kinda unique on a centerstand otherwise when parked outside.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #68 on: June 24, 2012, 04:24:35 AM »
The CS scares me. I dont like the idea of my bike parked with the rear tire off the ground.What's to keep it from rolling?
Uh gravity ???, if you never noticed the centrestand overcentres a little, this holds the bike on the stand and stops it rolling forward, ever notice that it takes a reasonable amount of effort to push it off.  I personally use the side stand most of the time, and only use the centrestand for maintenance and if I'm parked on soft ground.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #69 on: June 24, 2012, 04:52:38 AM »
The most important factor to using the center stand is the cool factor when you heave that bad boy up and back. I suppose it's similar to using the kick start in front of the $30K black boot guys.....
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #70 on: June 24, 2012, 09:20:42 PM »
The CS scares me. I dont like the idea of my bike parked with the rear tire off the ground.What's to keep it from rolling?
Uh gravity ???, if you never noticed the centrestand overcentres a little, this holds the bike on the stand and stops it rolling forward, ever notice that it takes a reasonable amount of effort to push it off.  I personally use the side stand most of the time, and only use the centrestand for maintenance and if I'm parked on soft ground.

Uh,Thanks ???Yeah,I'm totally unfamiliar with gravity.Wanna spell it out for me?

The OP asked for opinions.I posted mine.If you disagree-fine.


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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #71 on: June 24, 2012, 09:24:32 PM »
Your opinion was "I don't like the idea...". Accepted.

But you finished with the question "What's to keep it from rolling?"

TB answered it.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #72 on: June 24, 2012, 09:35:26 PM »
True. It was a rhetorical question to perhaps give insight to my way of thinking.Not an open invite to yet another snarky remark.
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #73 on: June 24, 2012, 09:36:44 PM »
Hell, I can't even get my 750 on to the damn CS!
It's all I can do to get mine up on to the CS. I have to put as much effort into it as an Olympic power lifter. Of course, I weigh about as much as Piglet, maybe less. ;D
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Re: Center Stand vs Side Stand
« Reply #74 on: June 24, 2012, 10:05:06 PM »
True. It was a rhetorical question to perhaps give insight to my way of thinking.Not an open invite to yet another snarky remark.
My my, you are a little touchy, sounds like you need to eat a cupful of cement. I wasn't being snarky, I was simply explaining to you that without a good push your bike won't fall off the CS.
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