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Offline kpier883

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2012, 01:30:51 PM »
Bike didn't need extra battery.  Not much compression, likely.
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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2012, 02:05:04 PM »
This is the second one of these videos I have watched lately.  I wanted to scream use the choke. >:(  In both videos the choke was the last thing they thought to use.  If I remember correctly I don't think my 750 would start without the choke, at least a bit, no matter how warm the engine was.

I don't know about the 550 but the CB750 starter is in an enclosed space which does not allow for good heat dissipation.

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2012, 08:43:46 PM »
If you can start a cold motor without choke, your idle circuit is likely too rich. Once warmed up, it will idle like ish.

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2012, 08:53:54 PM »
new thread,,,,,how can i fit an ingersol rand air starter to my cb500?

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2012, 09:33:50 PM »
How many here remember your cars or trucks having manual chokes?  I do.  I learned to drive in a 52 GMC 3/4 ton farm truck with a 4 speed manual.  Starting routine:  Make sure trans is in neutral, turn key on, pull choke half way out keeping choke knob in hand, press floorboard mounted starter button to engage starter, balance choke with throttle until the 300ci six fired, add a little more gas to keep the idle high, let engine warm for a minute and start easing choke in finally fully open at operating temp and a good idle.  Drop into granny gear and head off to the field. 

Problem now is that manual chokes haven't been around for 60 years and most drivers today have not been exposed to them.  I can understand some youngster new to old bikes not knowing or forgetting the proper start sequence.  They just don't have it ingrained in their mind or driving habits.
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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2012, 09:35:43 PM »
+1 lonex,,they also expect them to idle straight away cold?

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2012, 09:40:32 PM »
How many here remember your cars or trucks having manual chokes?   I do.  I learned to drive in a 52 GMC 3/4 ton farm truck with a 4 speed manual.  Starting routine:  Make sure trans is in neutral, turn key on, pull choke half way out keeping choke knob in hand, press floorboard mounted starter button to engage starter, balance choke with throttle until the 300ci six fired, add a little more gas to keep the idle high, let engine warm for a minute and start easing choke in finally fully open at operating temp and a good idle.  Drop into granny gear and head off to the field. 

Problem now is that manual chokes haven't been around for 60 years and most drivers today have not been exposed to them.  I can understand some youngster new to old bikes not knowing or forgetting the proper start sequence.  They just don't have it ingrained in their mind or driving habits.
My car still has one still has the points also ;)
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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2012, 10:00:37 PM »
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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2012, 12:43:24 AM »
How many here remember your cars or trucks having manual chokes?

1974 Dodge Adventurer. I can't remember how to start it unless I sit down in it. I hope to inherit it this summer.

As far as the video: ouch. I wonder how many years he took off that starter motor by doing that? If it takes THAT long to start, there is obviously something else you haven't done right.
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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2012, 12:58:26 AM »
My 2011 Ninja 250 had a manual choke. Never had to use it though. Always fired right up even when cold and could perform just like it was warmed up. Although I'm sure there was some other supernatural (modern) forces at work, unlike our bikes.

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2012, 01:12:05 AM »
it might start if there were any spark plugs in it.

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2012, 06:19:46 AM »
I like the fist pump at the end...."Yeah, looky what I just dun did.  I got her a runnin".  Love Youtube...Where you can showcase your ignorance to the whole world, not just your friends and neighbors.  ;D

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2012, 01:52:46 PM »
I had a 47 Willys Jeep pickup ... it had a foot starter button and a manual choke.  You sure had to know how to start it because the 6-volt system did not give you to many cranks with starter.  Learning how to manipulate the choke was the key.  Then again it had a manual crank as a backup ... I think that's the reason why one of my arms is shorter than the other  ::)

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2012, 02:16:54 PM »
My 51 chevy was 6v when I got it I changed it to 12v but left the 6v starter on it. Now that thing spins over. But I don't hit the button to long.Don't have to if I keep it in tune.

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Re: How not to treat a starter motor.
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2012, 03:42:19 PM »
Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin'
                here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?

Aye.  In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup
    o' tea.

A cup ' COLD tea.

Without milk or sugar.

OR tea!

In a filthy, cracked cup.



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'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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