Topic: Ebay crack pipe $$

[lucky]

The guy that sold me the 1969 carbs hid several defects from me.
Wrong idle jets and this.

I am going to be much more careful on ebay from now on. Too many scumbags.
I will go back and find this seller now.

I will need to repair this the correct way now by cleaning and soldering.It kept leaking and at first I thought it was the drain screw. Well that was easy to diagnose.
Now I know why the drain screw was also missing. Not shown in the photo. But I will double check that.

You will notice the glue on that brass tube is also cracked.

Click on photo to see a larger image.

[fmctm1sw]

Lucky,

Are you sure he knew?  Maybe he was just a salvage guy.   

[Vincent P]

I'm thinking he knew; the glue had to have gotten there somehow???

[lucky]

If you sell something I think you should look at it.

[trueblue]

But how do you know it wasn't a PO screwing with things, and this guy bought a basket case parted it out, and gave everything no more than a quick once over.  Whenever you buy second hand parts you always run the risk that you may have to do some repairs to make it work.

[754]

 Oh man those thing look like they are 42 yrs old...

[albertaboy]

If you used paypal to pay, start a "not as described" claim and BAM!!, refund.... serious.  Means you return them at your expense before the refund but at least you both satisfied.

[scottly]

Lucky, this wouldn't happen to be the throttle cable you just re-sold to a member, would it??
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Bad Sellers on Ebay
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:36:26 pm »

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I recently purchased two throttle cables for my 1969 CB750 carbs. One was used and one was "NEW".


The New one from MRMONKEYCLAW had a major problem. It looked good but the cable housings from the connector tube to the carbs were all too short. The adjusters on top of the carbs had to be unscrewed almost all of the way out of the carb top to get the slack out of them. No room left for adjustment. Also I already had all of the slack out of the cable from the throttle to the box so that would not help me.

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Motion pro throttle cable B (push)
« on: June 23, 2012, 04:24:32 pm »

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Motion Pro throttle cable (B) push P/N 01-0156
Brand new in box never used.
!978 or 1977 CB750.  Black vinyl .
Cost me $27

$20.00 includes shipping!
« Last Edit: June 23, 2012, 04:28:34 pm by lucky »
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[754]

 I wouldnt even blink if I got carbs that had that problem.... It may depend what you paid..
 I got a head last week, a ported RC ENG head, the priority was 87bux and they dropped it and chipped one intake port, and flattened and cracked the other plusc it took 13 days to get it and they called that PRIORITY.... now that is a bit of a problem...
 There is 2 types of throttle cables, early are smaller diameter & shorter.. hope you didnt rank out on someone that sent you a real part...

[andrewk]

Post the results of your soldering effort-  I've had better luck sleeving them with brass tube that you can get at a hobby store.

People are sh*tty sometimes, but I doubt the seller intentionally hid anything.  Used parts are used parts- if you paid core price you don't have much to complain about.  I would understand if you paid for a set of carbs in "100 percent proper working order."

[bjatwood]

Guess you were "unLUCKY" with that purchase off of eBay.
Good luck with your return....

[Bankerdanny]

Did you contact the seller about the cracked pipe? He might offer a partial refund.

However, I had to look really carefully to see the crack in mine, so even if he dropped the float bowls it would have been easy to miss.

Personally a cracked overflow tube wouldn't have a big impact on what I would pay.

[Really?]

Me thinkin' you cleaned them before you put them on.  YOU missed it the first time around and you had to see the result of the problem to get you to look.  So, there is a chance the guy had no clue that the tube was glued and cracked.

[jneuf]

As 754 said, they're 42 years old...stuff gets missed. Unless this guy was the original owner of these carbs, you have no idea if he was the one that used glue to fix them anyway...

How were they represented on ebay? Do you have a copy of the original ad? Or any questions that you asked the seller?

I think it's a little over the top to refer to the guy as a scumbag, and assuming he knew that the tube was cracked.

[phaedrus314]

My experience with ebay as of late has been that they ALWAYS side with the buyer, to the point where it is too risky for me to even try to sell low cost parts with high shipping.  I've had to eat shipping costs on multiple occasions due to buyers buying something that didn't fit their needs or as-is parts with clear damage pointed out in the listing then complaining to ebay that the part wasn't showroom new.

[WhyNot2]

Man, first time I saw the title,

I thought someone was trying to sell a "crack pipe" imagine my surprise.....

[lucky]

Lucky, this wouldn't happen to be the throttle cable you just re-sold to a member, would it??
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Bad Sellers on Ebay
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:36:26 pm »

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I recently purchased two throttle cables for my 1969 CB750 carbs. One was used and one was "NEW".


The New one from MRMONKEYCLAW had a major problem. It looked good but the cable housings from the connector tube to the carbs were all too short. The adjusters on top of the carbs had to be unscrewed almost all of the way out of the carb top to get the slack out of them. No room left for adjustment. Also I already had all of the slack out of the cable from the throttle to the box so that would not help me.

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Motion pro throttle cable B (push)
« on: June 23, 2012, 04:24:32 pm »

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Motion Pro throttle cable (B) push P/N 01-0156
Brand new in box never used.
!978 or 1977 CB750.  Black vinyl .
Cost me $27

$20.00 includes shipping!
« Last Edit: June 23, 2012, 04:28:34 pm by lucky »
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The throttle cable I sold was still in the Motion Pro box
UNOPENED and NEW.It was the B cable.

The used cable I bought was for the 1969 CB750, not the 1978 CB750.

[lucky]

Did you contact the seller about the cracked pipe? He might offer a partial refund.

However, I had to look really carefully to see the crack in mine, so even if he dropped the float bowls it would have been easy to miss.

Personally a cracked overflow tube wouldn't have a big impact on what I would pay.

No I did not contact that seller. It would not be worthwhile. I just made the repair and am moving on. But I am being more careful with my purchases on Ebay.
IfI buy anymore carbs I WILL ASK what jets are in the carbs.

But we should all be more careful with what we sell and what we buy.

[lucky]

Me thinkin' you cleaned them before you put them on.  YOU missed it the first time around and you had to see the result of the problem to get you to look.  So, there is a chance the guy had no clue that the tube was glued and cracked.

Good point.

[lucky]

Man, first time I saw the title,

I thought someone was trying to sell a "crack pipe" imagine my surprise.....

And why would you be wanting to look at a crack pipe? LOL...lol..lol

[WhyNot2]

lol

[lucky]

My experience with ebay as of late has been that they ALWAYS side with the buyer, to the point where it is too risky for me to even try to sell low cost parts with high shipping.  I've had to eat shipping costs on multiple occasions due to buyers buying something that didn't fit their needs or as-is parts with clear damage pointed out in the listing then complaining to ebay that the part wasn't showroom new.

Yes...I understand.
Although I have a perfect 100% feedback score I am VERY careful when I sell a part.
I sell mostly new parts that did not fit my needs and are almost perfect.
No scratches maybe a fingerprint. LO...lol..lol

But I have offered ridiculous low prices, below what I paid, with no bites so I know many people are broke right now. I understand that. And most of my sales are around the 1st of the month(payday).

These are hard times now for many people.That is why many of us are restoring old bikes. But its fun too. And the bikes were well made.

[lucky]

Post the results of your soldering effort-  I've had better luck sleeving them with brass tube that you can get at a hobby store.

People are sh*tty sometimes, but I doubt the seller intentionally hid anything.  Used parts are used parts- if you paid core price you don't have much to complain about.  I would understand if you paid for a set of carbs in "100 percent proper working order."

I sanded the brass tube with 400 grit paper and it soldered it.
Came out nice and smooth. It was easier than I thought.
That old glue came right off too and was not hiding any other defect.
Maybe the glue was in the crack, but drained down to the bottom of the tube.

[trueblue]

Post the results of your soldering effort-  I've had better luck sleeving them with brass tube that you can get at a hobby store.

People are sh*tty sometimes, but I doubt the seller intentionally hid anything.  Used parts are used parts- if you paid core price you don't have much to complain about.  I would understand if you paid for a set of carbs in "100 percent proper working order."

I sanded the brass tube with 400 grit paper and it soldered it.
Came out nice and smooth. It was easier than I thought.
That old glue came right off too and was not hiding any other defect.
Maybe the glue was in the crack, but drained down to the bottom of the tube.

Lucky, would I be correct in assuming that you used real solder to solder these tubes, not electrical solder, the kind that comes on a roll.

[andrewk]

As 754 said, they're 42 years old...stuff gets missed. Unless this guy was the original owner of these carbs, you have no idea if he was the one that used glue to fix them anyway...

How were they represented on ebay? Do you have a copy of the original ad? Or any questions that you asked the seller?

I think it's a little over the top to refer to the guy as a scumbag, and assuming he knew that the tube was cracked.

Especially without even contacting the seller.  Even accusing sellers of "giving you the jets they don't want?"  Cmon man-  you don't see the obvious possibility that someone tuned those carbs to an engine and it wanted a smaller pilot?  Used parts are used parts- it's not a conspiracy.

You sound like a hard customer to deal with.