Author Topic: Harley snob could not start bike at gas sattion. (Read 8051 times)

Brent C. · « **on:** June 19, 2006, 12:08:08 PM »

This happened a little while back...you guys will appreciate this.

I'm on a road trip with my wife, driving my sharp looking dark metallic green 2000 Pontiac GTP, I need some gas so I pull off the freeway, dodging many hardley riders (misspelling intended) in a giant pack. I finally make my way through them down the road to the nearest gas station and pull up to a recently vacated pump. I get out and notice the 98 degree air outside is quite a shock from the airconditioned cage , throw the 91 octane nozzle in my car and start pumping. Then I hear this guy behind me cussing and turning over his HUGE full dress Harley with NO success. I chuckle to my self as I notice his BRAND NEW leather boots, new leather chaps and vest, all without a scratch in them. His companion is fitted in the same attire....how cute, they match. Anyway they guy gets off his bike and looks perplexed why his overpriced ride will not start. He trys it one more time.....ererrerrerrererre...nothing........

After I feel satisfied that he has NO IDEA how to start it, I walk over to him and ask him if he just pulled off the free way, He looks up from his owners manual with a hint of 'why are you talking to me' plastered on his face.

"yes" he barks back at me and putts his nose back in his book "i'm looking for a phone number for my roadside assistance" he continued.

"is it fuel injected?" I ask.

"no, its carburated" he replied looking up again trying to dial his cell phone with his leather gloves on, with no success i might add.

"it is hot flooded, you need to hold your throttle open while you crank it over." I tell him. He gets this really puzzled look on his face looks at my car and looks back at me like 'why are you telling me this?'

"How do you know!" he barks back at me.

"i will bet you a coke it is flooded" I calmly reply.
He thew his leg back over his hog and cranked it over with the throttle wide open this time....*rerer POP POP VRROOOOOOOOOM* the beast fires to life...and his eyes are huge!!

"thanks" he sheepishly told me with a hint of embarrassment on his face. Threw his cell phone in a cubby and put on his sunglasses and popped it into gear and thundered off to catch his herd that left him stranded.

Punk...I thought, He stiffed me on that coke too.....grabbed my receipt from my pump that just popped and hung it up and got back into my car and explained to the wife why yuppies can throw down some serious cash on a bike and matching leather but cannot buy the know-how to run the damn thing, "it is just Halloween for the yuppies" I tell her. Put my car into drive and pull onto the highway and see another biker along side the road on a cell phone throwing his free arm up in the air in disgust. "Halloween" I say under my breath "Halloween".

heffay · « **Reply #1 on:** June 19, 2006, 12:21:02 PM »

i've never been able to start a hot flooded bike that way... the trick that always works for me is very similar but requires

full choke while cranking with wide open thottle for just a few seconds

then, with no throttle at all, crank it without the choke.... vroooom

hey, look at it this way... did you really need that coke fix? cuz, seems to me like you did ok without it

you got a fellow biker back on the road and that's all that counts. inappreciative or not... he still said thanks and you looked cool in front of HIS and YOUR girlfriend!

Brent C. · « **Reply #2 on:** June 19, 2006, 12:24:33 PM »

Ya...the full throttle thing was the only way to ever hotstart my two XR's if I ever crashed .....but they have a decompression lever that helps immensely as well.

StevieMac · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2006, 01:45:28 PM »

Great story. It is truly amazing the people that have NO idea where to look when there is a problem. WTF would they do without their cell phones!?

eldar · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2006, 02:30:15 PM »

Well again, this shows how people think they can buy their image. This happens on the newer metric cruisers too. I think there has been a huge influx of jack offs buying these big expensive bikes and have no clue how they work. not only that, but they only know how to go straight on those huge things!

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2006, 02:35:02 PM »

Brent,

What I liked about your story was that you helped a fellow biker. Yeah, some people don't have a clue and some people aren't grateful. You know he was embarassed big time and thats better than a coke. Hopefully he learned a lesson. I'd do the same whether it was a Harley rider or a Honda rider or anybody for that matter if I felt I could help. I'd like to think that any other biker would help me too whether I am on my Harley or my Honda. We're all bikers with some being geeks, nerds, pseudo-bikers, real bikers, techies, yuppies, etc.

Jerry

merc2dogs · « **Reply #6 on:** June 19, 2006, 03:51:39 PM »

what realy gets me is watching some of those guys try turning a corner, most get this terrified look in their eyes when it starts to lean.

a while back I was heading home on the freeway, came off 196 onto 131, and right there was some construvction going on, with barrels and cones set up, I looked back to make sure there was noone coming up my tailppe in time to watch a harley owner in the next lane hit one of those plastic barrels that had fallen into the lane, he never took any evasive action just closed his eyes and hit it, watched him wipe out right there beside me, me I'd have been 10 different ways and missed the thing either way, the bottom of the barrel was still over the centerline, if he'd have had more than "key goes here, gas goes there" experience he'd have easily countered away from it. I like the idea that people are getting more aware of bikes, but realy hate my insurance climbing because of all the inexperienced credit card bikers learning by attrition.
And realy hate the attitudes of a lot of the newbies. had one a while ago start talking about his bike, 'Just paid 18k for it, it's an 06 one of the best bikes made.... what is that thing you're on? ' I told him it was a '74 honda 750, my 14th bike, been riding it for 22 years, when did you say you bought your first bike?

ken.

rab1dwolf · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2006, 04:38:45 PM »

what exactly is "hot flooded"?

grumburg · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2006, 04:44:08 PM »

We have all run into these "Hell's Accountants". Wouldn't have pi++ed on a burning bike 10 years ago, but now are "in" . When I bought my 1st bike (a 69 Suzuki 350 rebel), several people asked why I started out with some so "big". Now you have 40-50 yr olds who had a QA50 in 1970 and think they are experienced. I can think of several examples.

Gordon · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2006, 04:47:52 PM »

Wow! Is it really already time for another Harley-bashing thread?

I guess time flies when you're busy enjoying your own ride.

grumburg · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2006, 04:54:33 PM »

I am not Harley bashing (I had 5 between '74 and '92 ranging from a 50 Panhead to a 88 FLHTC) only in the last 10 yrs they have become a fashion statement.

siter81 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 19, 2006, 07:27:24 PM »

only in the last 10 yrs they have become a fashion statement.

Wow thats an understatement.

Rushoid · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2006, 07:48:35 PM »

Quote from: rab1dwolf on June 19, 2006, 04:38:45 PM

what exactly is "hot flooded"?

A song by Foreigner?

Just kidding. I don't know. Never heard that term. I assume the same as regular flooded but with a hot engine.

Jonesy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:49:14 PM »

It sounds like the condition where someone tries to start a hot engine with the choke....

rab1dwolf · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:57:02 PM »

Quote from: Jonesy on June 19, 2006, 08:49:14 PM

It sounds like the condition where someone tries to start a hot engine with the choke....

i dont know that much about motorcycles but....why would someone do that generall if its hot it doesnt need choke....?

Jonesy · « **Reply #15 on:** June 19, 2006, 09:18:58 PM »

Quote from: rab1dwolf on June 19, 2006, 08:57:02 PM

Quote from: Jonesy on June 19, 2006, 08:49:14 PM
It sounds like the condition where someone tries to start a hot engine with the choke....

i dont know that much about motorcycles but....why would someone do that generall if its hot it doesnt need choke....?

Well, if all they were taught was to pull the choke out when starting the bike and they know nothing about how engines operate, I could understand whay they might- that's all they've known.

PS- I love the avatar!

Raul CB750K1 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 20, 2006, 03:08:29 AM »

Quote from: Rushoid on June 19, 2006, 07:48:35 PM

Quote from: rab1dwolf on June 19, 2006, 04:38:45 PM
what exactly is "hot flooded"?
A song by Foreigner? Just kidding. I don't know. Never heard that term. I assume the same as regular flooded but with a hot engine.

Wasn't it "hot blooded"? "You don't have to read my mind, to know what I've got in mind, should I leave you my key?"

Man, I'm feeling old at 34...

Raul

Rushoid · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2006, 06:40:30 AM »

Sing it with me now "Well I'm Hot Flooded - Check it and see - I need a Honda guy to rescue me - This thing should start after 18 grand - I'm hot flooded, hot flooded."

You ARE old Raul!

(BTW, I'm 36

)

Orcinus · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2006, 07:14:10 AM »

LMAO!

Love the lyrics... and if Raul is old, I'm in big trouble... (I'm going on 48)

Brent C. · « **Reply #19 on:** June 20, 2006, 07:34:07 AM »

Hot flooded, umm...I don't know where I heard it first it is a term my off road buddy used.....When I rode my XR's off road and you get a bit too fast, and things get away from you too quick...and you low side on a graveled corner....you pick up the too hot bike...and try to start it and it takes a thousand kicks.....or you can pull the de-comp lever give it a couple of good kicks then hold the throttle wide open and give it a couple of more healthy kicks...and VRROOOOM it fires back to life.

Brent C. · « **Reply #20 on:** June 20, 2006, 07:42:06 AM »

Oh....for the record.....I LOVE the new Harley XL1200C in chopper blue.....and would KILL for a Night Train.....I love anything with a motor and two wheels, any motorcycle new or old, period. BUT I do not like the phoney attitude that goes with "Hardley" riders.

Drool.....

grumburg · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2006, 08:27:12 AM »

My 50 panhead had the old Linkert brass bowl carb. With the sidecar on, on a hot day, you better plan on a 1 hr rest if it was shut off hot. Could hear the gas boiling in the carb. Just plain old vapor lock. Would not start under any circumstances. Just one of the charms of an antique.

heffay · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2006, 08:41:59 AM »

btw guys... it has nothing to do with people trying to start it with the choke and not getting it started due to that... read my earlier post! my cb350 occasionally does this and i'll need to call on the remedy i spoke of earlier and will make you scroll back rather than type again.

and actually, we can just take the hot off of the flooded and simply call it flooded because that's what it is.

Brent C. · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2006, 09:16:25 AM »

Quote from: heffay on June 20, 2006, 08:41:59 AM

btw guys... it has nothing to do with people trying to start it with the choke and not getting it started due to that... read my earlier post! my cb350 occasionally does this and i'll need to call on the remedy i spoke of earlier and will make you scroll back rather than type again.

and actually, we can just take the hot off of the flooded and simply call it flooded because that's what it is.

Alot of bikes have their own personality...my first bike, an 80 montesa Cota 349 trials bike was a pig to start. Took the whole find TDC and then slightly push it a couple of degrees off TDC, then give it a HEALTHY kick to start.....once it was warm you could just stab the lever and it would fire. I ,personaly, don't see how having the choke on and have WOT at the same time would work since they kinda cancel out eachother, but that is your bike and I will not try to tell you how to start it because you know what works and what does not. Motorcyles RULE!!!!

heffay · « **Reply #24 on:** June 20, 2006, 04:30:24 PM »

depends what kind of a "choke" you have but, most people having ridden these types of bikes for a substantial length of time that have ever flooded it... would agree.

shall we poll it?...

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