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Offline 03rangerxlt

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Battery Cable questions!!!
« on: July 01, 2012, 01:47:25 PM »
I have relocated my battery tray up to just behind the seat, and I am in the process of lengthening the cables to put power to the bike.  Where in the hell do I get battery cable for this thing!?!  I looked at the Autozone website, and it apears I can only buy cable form them by 25ft lengths???  Also, I need 4 gauge cable, right?  Any other tips?
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 03:19:43 PM »
A high end car stereo store will have flexible cable and the crimp-on terminals for you, if you have a length measured they will crimp the connectors on. This is the best approach, the terminals should be crimped with the right tool. #6 would be OK but #4 is nice.

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 06:07:03 PM »
go to home depot or ace hardware can buy it buy the foot there dont forget the cupling an terminal while your there
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2012, 09:50:45 AM »
Or welding cable from TSC.

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2012, 11:24:30 AM »
The home depot stores here only have house wire, super stiff and prone to work hardening and breakage in a vibrating environment like a motorcycle. You should use flexible wire. This can be hard to find - flexible welding cable or car stereo high amperage "superflex" primary wire is what I would use.

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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2012, 11:42:50 AM »
Also, I need 4 gauge cable, right?  Any other tips?
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Are you keeping the electric starter? If not, you can use smaller wire.
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 03:13:04 PM »
4 gauge wire!?! :o  I think you guys are mixing up your cable sizes.
The cable on my CB750 sure isn't #4. My St1100 doesn't use #4 cable.
I have used #12 jumper cables to start my bikes. Not a perfect solution but you get my point. :)
A #8  would be more like what is required for these bikes. (make sure it's stranded, as stated above)

You can use #4 but it would be like using garden hose for the fuel line to the carbs.
Works, but oversized for the application.

Just my $.02
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 06:57:34 PM »
Go to Autozone and go where the battery chargers and jumper cables, all that crap. There will be premade, pre-packaged battery cables all in different sizes(guage, length, end terminals)

You should find stuff that will work just fine.
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2012, 07:31:12 PM »
Don't  buy auto cables for your bike! I highly doubt they have the correct length. A PO did this on one of my bikes and it looked rigged.  The proper cable is not expensive. 
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2012, 07:39:19 PM »
My St1100 doesn't use #4 cable.

How many amps does an St1100 starter draw? Is it a permanent magnet, gear reduction starter? The old Honda starters are current hogs. The further the battery is located from the starter, the bigger the wire needs to be.
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2012, 09:09:27 PM »
I went to a local battery shop and had a set custom made.  I went in with the length I needed and a piece of the old cable, and the guy made them for me in less than 15 minutes.  Crimped, heat-shrinked, and color coded for less than $20.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2012, 09:22:51 PM »
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2012, 09:47:05 AM »
I did this a few months ago.  Or, more accurately, I "tried" to do this.  Following advice from this forum, I also purchased larger gauge cable, since I was increasing the length (going to location under seat cowl).  The ground cable was easy enough.  The cable from the starter motor to the solenoid was a disaster. 

I can't comment on the CB500, but my CB750's starter motor cable was non-replaceable.  The starter motor had a funky looking (to me, anyway) terminal where the cable was soldered.  I managed to unsolder it, but could not find a way to solder in the new cable, and eventually I pretty much ruined the starter motor after various failed attempts.

Anyway, it maybe worth taking a closer look at how your cable attaches to the starter.  At some point I plan to get another starter motor, and this time I'll relocate the solenoid so that the stock starter cable will reach it.  Then I'll make a custom cable between solenoid and battery, which looks much more straight forward.  For now it's a kickstart bike :)

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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2012, 08:18:08 PM »
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Offline 03rangerxlt

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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2012, 12:58:47 AM »
I bought 3 ft of #6 today.  Hopefully that will work.  I'm going to have to lengthen the cable that already comes off the starter with it.  I bought some heat shrink tube to keep it clean.
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2012, 11:27:50 AM »
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The old Honda starters are current hogs.
Maybe so but still ... #4 !
It certainly isn't #4 on my stock  '72 CB750.
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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2012, 11:51:38 AM »
Found this chart...
I believe it is for continuous duty, in standard ambient temp. with normal convection cooling.

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Re: Battery Cable questions!!!
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2012, 02:48:45 PM »
I used #6 from car quest. they have red and black. My store sells it by the foot. I like the cable ends from Lowes electrical section on the battery end, I found the large ring connector for the ground end at an electric supply house. I used a copper (non plated) end for the solenoid.
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