Topic: Cycle X 970kit

[Doo Bee]

Ok, I am interested in the Cycle X 970 kit. They want lots of money for the
machine work. They have to weld in between 1&2 & 3&4 because the large
cylinders will break through. I wondered if anyone here has any suggestions
as to a glue like JB weld that I can fill in this area. Been searching for a high
temp filler type glue. Lab metal, marine glues etc. I can get the other machine
work done locally cheaper. Welding in between fins would be a #$%*. All
suggestions welcome.

[lucky]

I doubt that will work. The cases can expand .004-.0019 thousands of an inch.
 JB wild does not expand and contract.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

Go to APE for their 1000 kit. Big Jay (owner/member here) can do your cylinders without breaking through. Can't say if it's due to a difference in the new sleeves each use or how it's done. If Jay does break through, which can happen, then he will likely epoxy the opening.

The machine work will require your cylinders to be heated to remove the old sleeves, bore the cylinders for the new sleeves, press in the new sleeves, bore the new sleeves and deck the top of the cylinders to ensure flatness. It ain't cheap! Anything larger than 836/850 is not cheap and will require this. Also an added expense will be new stronger rods. You'd better consider heavy duty studs too or it won't be long before stock ones stretch and you get head leaks and loss of cylinder pressure. Big Jay/APE is the only manufacturer of those as far as I know.

How about just doing a 836/850 but get the extra performance with head work by Mike Rieck?!

I'm not selling CycleX short here as they've been doing some serious #$%*. Just providing some ideas for other options that should be considered.

[andy750]

Or just buy one of Mike Riecks 1000cc cylinder blocks! Power without the messing around.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=49438.0

[Doo Bee]

Thanks for the replies. I have RC golden rods, oil cooler, top cases machined
for large jugs Etc. Just need a Big Kit and yes heavy duty studs for top end.
Wow, nice work on the Big Block, love the fins for street use cooling. RC Big
Block never had fins. Did not have time to read all 24 pages in thread. Anyone
own one Please chime in ---------- I may have to save up a few more
pennies for one, I have everything else for a big bore!!!

[Tews19]

Or just buy one of Mike Riecks 1000cc cylinder blocks! Power without the messing around.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=49438.0

OH MAN, I need to get home soon. WOrk comps don't show pics if not approved..............Is the block alone 1499?

[andy750]

Correct, the block alone is $1499. A bargain when you think that a new OEM 4-4 exhaust costs just less at $1300. You are getting a piece of quality and precision machining for that kind of money.

[Retro Rocket]

Thanks for the replies. I have RC golden rods, oil cooler, top cases machined
for large jugs Etc. Just need a Big Kit and yes heavy duty studs for top end.
Wow, nice work on the Big Block, love the fins for street use cooling. RC Big
Block never had fins. Did not have time to read all 24 pages in thread. Anyone
own one Please chime in ---------- I may have to save up a few more
pennies for one, I have everything else for a big bore!!!

I own one and its a work of art, may by another . Mine is all aluminum with nikasil bores, no big sleeves to worry about and a substantial weight saving.... {did i mention it is cool as hell}   

[Tews19]

Thanks for the replies. I have RC golden rods, oil cooler, top cases machined
for large jugs Etc. Just need a Big Kit and yes heavy duty studs for top end.
Wow, nice work on the Big Block, love the fins for street use cooling. RC Big
Block never had fins. Did not have time to read all 24 pages in thread. Anyone
own one Please chime in ---------- I may have to save up a few more
pennies for one, I have everything else for a big bore!!!

I own one and its a work of art, may by another . Mine is all aluminum with nikasil bores, no big sleeves to worry about and a substantial weight saving.... {did i mention it is cool as hell}   

Can we get some pics please RR?

[Retro Rocket]

Can we get some pics please RR?

All you would see is the block , its all packed away. I won't start putting it together till i get all the parts i need to finish it, i will post plenty of pics then... Unless you just want to see the block.?

 

[Doo Bee]

RR----is it bored and honed for a 1000 or 970? Also is the $1499 Nikasiled sized honed ready to go?? I snowmobile
and Nikasil cylinder repair is not cheap per cylinder!!!

[MRieck]

RR----is it bored and honed for a 1000 or 970? Also is the $1499 Nikasiled sized honed ready to go?? I snowmobile
and Nikasil cylinder repair is not cheap per cylinder!!!

No....plating is additional. I wish I could sell a package for that much but there is a substantial amount of machining time just making the cylinder.

[Retro Rocket]

Thanks Mike, its a work of art. Doo Bee, its 1000cc mate.... Remember, bigger is better....

[Doo Bee]

Wow, sounds like with plating, pistons, gasket's etc. the cyliders and all will cost $2500-3000. Sorry toooooo
much for me! Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that you took the time to solve all the problems with a stock
block. And I can see all the time spent to make it. If I could I'd buy one but outta my reach. I'll have to go the
old fashion way punch out sleeves install bigger, seal cylinder breakthough. I looked on youtube and alumiweld or
durafix welding rods may be the answer.

[Tews19]

Can we see a complete engine done?

[Greggo]

Can we see a complete engine done?

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[Tews19]

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