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Offline kweb

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Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« on: July 04, 2012, 06:06:09 pm »
Hey,

I have been putting my 78 CB550 K back together and have been having one problem after another : ) But I'm having fun right! I have put my newly powdercoated wheels back together and have a question on the rear. The bearings are in, and I have assembled the wheel per the clymers manual. Once completely assembled I seem to have a little, very little play on the rear sprocket and the aluminum piece that the sprocket bolts to. I believe the bearing is completely seated and I have hit the heck out of the retaining ring.... Is a little play normal?

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 08:02:50 pm »
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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 10:50:26 pm »
for me. I needed to beat the sprocket on the powdercoat takes up just enough so the sprocket doesnt seat properly also can cut off PC with razor blade. Me I wouldnt ride it until its tight
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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2012, 06:09:38 am »
The sprocket itself is not loose. It is the drive flange which the sprocket is attached to that has a little room to move. The wheel bearing is seated on the inner race, and the bearing retainer is seated against that bearing, however there is still a small gap between the bearing retainer and the drive flange. Any other ideas?

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2012, 10:45:28 am »
So I went ahead and disassembled the wheel again and pulled the bearings out. I believe what is happening is that the bearing that I have installed (new) is just a smidge too tall. Without the bearing the retainer collar screws down and everything is tight, with the bearing it stands up about a 1/16 of an inch. The wheel bearing in question has a part number on it of 6305NSE and was ordered from bikebandit. does anybody have any experience with this? I searched around but found nothing...

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2012, 12:30:09 pm »
Anybody have any ideas on this... it's driving me nuts!  :o

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2012, 12:45:48 pm »
I can't ascertain exactly what you are talking about.

Review this to ensure you have all the required parts:

http://www.westernhillshondayamaha.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=2036824&category=Motorcycles&make=HONDA&year=1977&fveh=123325

Then either post a picture showing your perceived issue.  Or, refer to the parts list numbers to indicate where your issue exists.

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2012, 05:32:50 pm »
Hey, thanks for the response. This is the fiche that I have been going off of.

http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1978-honda-cb550k-rear-wheel/o/m9449sch401615

 My problem is with the bearing (#26) and the retaining ring (#3). This fiche is misleading because the retaining ring actually goes after the final drive flange (#8). Without the bearing everything seats fine and the flange is tight. With the bearing in all the way the retaining ring (#3) sits up on the flange about 1/16 and the flange has a little wiggle room.

Is this clear as mud?

thanks
« Last Edit: July 05, 2012, 05:46:22 pm by kweb »

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2012, 06:09:13 pm »
It's been 10 years + since I had my 78 Rear wheel apart.

I looked at my Fiche for the 1975 CB550F.  I think it has a better orientation/association of components.  I don't know if there is a specific oddity/difference between the F model and the 77-78 K models.  I had assumed no, but could be wrong, I suppose.

Anyway, for your parts list reference, I will ask if you have #9 and #10 in place when you tighten down #8.

Did you compare the old bearing width to the new bearing width?

Just fishing for answers, I guess.

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2012, 06:30:10 pm »
Check it against the other like TT said if they are the same I would think it is not seated. The 6305 sounds right not sure about NSE Is this a single seal?
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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2012, 06:32:11 pm »
Yes, its a single seal. Not sure about the width.. I'm not sure if I still have the original bearing unfortunately... I tore down the wheel months ago and may have pitched the destroyed bearing.

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2012, 06:33:54 pm »
I can see that it's seated so it must be a little wider than the old one. I don't get it as this is the honda part number for the bearing that I need.... ugh. I can't believe that noone else has had this issue....

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2012, 09:38:28 pm »
I've been doing some research and am thinking now that the rubber rear wheel dampers (#4) may be worn.. Could this cause my drive flange to rock a little bit?

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Re: Need a little help here.... 78 CB550K
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2012, 03:19:07 pm »
Hi kweb,

I had the same problem, and found this thread when I searched this forum:
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=84537.0
I tried something similar to what he did, but have not road tested it yet.  I didn't alter my wheel, and the bearing is fully seated, I don't know why there is a gap now between the drive flange and the retainer.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 04:56:51 am by Onetrackmind »