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Offline lhemrick

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750 starting/running issues
« on: August 18, 2012, 06:25:29 AM »
I have a 1977 CB750K that you can charge the battery and it will start but only after a few minutes of running it will not start back with the starter. You can kick start it and go where ever you want by kicking it over. I've ohm-ed the stater and field coils and they seem to be fine and I don't figure it would run if it wasn't charging so I'm left to wonder what the issue is. Also if you charge the battery and disconnect it from the bike it will hold a charge but goes dead if hooked up to the bike. Battery is about three years old.

Any help please,
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Re: 750 starting/running issues
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2012, 06:49:41 AM »
Sorry I cant help you with an answer, but had to say very cool bike.

Offline Sdsbassist

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Re: 750 starting/running issues
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2012, 07:26:19 AM »
IMO id start with a new battery. 3 years and they are about toast. Could be a drain somewhere on the bike.

+1 on having an interesting bike.
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Past bikes: 76 750K - "Iowa Blue",78 750K Craigslist find - "Black Beth;" 77 CB750K Basketcase, with a 75K engine; 1970 Cb750 K1, "Rosa Luxembourg"
74 cb750, 75 cb550, 77 kawa 650, 81 virago 750, 83 virago 920, 80 Honda Twinstar 200, 71 Honda CT70, 1971 Honda CB750 Rat Project "Black Dahlia Bitsa"

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Re: 750 starting/running issues
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2012, 04:33:29 PM »
I have a 1977 CB750K that you can charge the battery and it will start but only after a few minutes of running it will not start back with the starter. You can kick start it and go where ever you want by kicking it over. I've ohm-ed the stater and field coils and they seem to be fine and I don't figure it would run if it wasn't charging so I'm left to wonder what the issue is. Also if you charge the battery and disconnect it from the bike it will hold a charge but goes dead if hooked up to the bike. Battery is about three years old.



Check the voltage at the battery with the motor running at 3000-4000 RPM; it should get up to about 14.5V (have the battery fully charged before you do the test). If it does get up to 14.5, turn on the headlight and see if it will stay that high, or if it drops. The battery going dead only when sitting in the bike might be a bad rectifier?


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Offline lhemrick

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Re: 750 starting/running issues
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 06:11:40 PM »
Thanks! Any way to test the rectifier?

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Re: 750 starting/running issues
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2012, 06:23:02 PM »
The rectifier can be tested with a meter, preferably one with a diode test setting. I believe Two-Tired wrote up a good tutorial; I don't know if it's in the FAQs or tips and tricks.
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Offline lhemrick

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Re: 750 starting/running issues
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 03:46:21 AM »
Found it. Looks like some good information. Since my strength is not in the electrics of these bikes this should help me figure it out.

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77 Honda CB750
70 Honda CB350 twin
71 Honda CB350 twin
72 Honda CB350 Four
72 Honda CB175
81 KZ550C2
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82 KZ750M1 CSR
84 ZN700 Shaft

Offline lhemrick

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Re: 750 starting/running issues
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2012, 12:41:09 PM »
I've been through part of the list of checks down to the voltage regulator. At 4000 rpm the bike is not giving the 14 to 15 volts it should to the battery actually the voltage doesn't go up at all. I'm wondering do I go ahead and try to make the last adjustment to the regulator or could it still be the rectifier?
Don't give up; Rust is only Temporary!
77 Honda CB750
70 Honda CB350 twin
71 Honda CB350 twin
72 Honda CB350 Four
72 Honda CB175
81 KZ550C2
81 KZ750H2
82 KZ750M1 CSR
84 ZN700 Shaft

Offline lhemrick

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Re: 750 starting/running issues
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2012, 03:06:58 PM »
Took it out for a 10 to 15 mile ride stopping a half dozen time along the way and failed to start on the last stop. Kicked it and got it home battery was down to 10.23 volts.
Don't give up; Rust is only Temporary!
77 Honda CB750
70 Honda CB350 twin
71 Honda CB350 twin
72 Honda CB350 Four
72 Honda CB175
81 KZ550C2
81 KZ750H2
82 KZ750M1 CSR
84 ZN700 Shaft