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Offline LoVel

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Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« on: August 30, 2012, 07:23:12 AM »
Got to work yesterday, pulled the key, shut off the fuel and went inside.  The CB sat out there for 9 1/2 hours.  Went back out to start her and go home and noticed right away the key was not in the correct place when I inserted it.

I had turned it to the parking light setting and pulled the key.  I could see a tiny bit of light in the neutral light so I turned on the fuel, pulled the choke up just a little and gave her kick.  Almost fell off from lack of resistance.  Figured what the hell could it hurt and kicked her again.  She gave a little bark which suprised me with the deadness of the battery.  Kicked her a few more times and she purred to life.  I must say these old girls do have their plusses.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 09:57:47 AM »


Funny how the brain works, isn't it?  I've turned off that switch hundreds of times (corrrectly) but yet I reversed it once too. I usually even have to give some thought as to which position the petcock valve has to be in so that it's not draining my reserve!! :P
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 10:32:03 AM »
The switch is the same as my Scrambler but the petcock is totally different than the one on my wifes Bonneville.  Luckily I can read the one on the CB.  Replaced it with a new one a few months ago.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 11:23:44 AM »
my question is .... what is the point of the other key turn?!?! off/on/wtf click me and ill drain ur battery? why?
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 11:28:45 AM »
my question is .... what is the point of the other key turn?!?! off/on/wtf click me and ill drain ur battery? why?

The "park" position is a requirement in Europe IIRC.  It leaves the taillight on.  And yes, I've kicked over many a low battery and rode off.  That's what I don't like about my 650, no kickstart..
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 11:29:10 AM »
I think its a hazard / parking light.  Leave the tail light on with the key out

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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 11:54:34 AM »
my question is .... what is the point of the other key turn?!?! off/on/wtf click me and ill drain ur battery? why?

It's so you can play your radio and not have the ignition turned on.  Thinking ahead for the gold wing. 

It is actually a euro thing as someone just mentioned.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 12:52:15 PM »
my question is .... what is the point of the other key turn?!?! off/on/wtf click me and ill drain ur battery? why?
I think there is a DOT requirement, to have a disabled vehicle tail amp operable for 30 minutes while stranded at the side of the road.  It a night visibility hazard, thing.

Honda put it on the key switch 'cause they knew all their riders were smart enough not to operate it improperly in the 70's.  They did not anticipate the entire automotive industry making vehicles smarter than the operators, and the operators expecting that in 2010.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 01:40:10 PM »
The European thing is the same as TT said,   in a Euro car, usually you would turn the left turnsignal on, or something quirky like that.  Not sure how it is now days.   Certain parked situations.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2012, 08:05:58 PM »
my question is .... what is the point of the other key turn?!?! off/on/wtf click me and ill drain ur battery? why?
I think there is a DOT requirement, to have a disabled vehicle tail amp operable for 30 minutes while stranded at the side of the road.  It a night visibility hazard, thing.

Honda put it on the key switch 'cause they knew all their riders were smart enough not to operate it improperly in the 70's.  They did not anticipate the entire automotive industry making vehicles smarter than the operators, and the operators expecting that in 2010.

so like that extra click extendeds the life of the battery with the lights on? because the start ignitions click (the first one) does the same exact thing as the second click except you cant start the bike

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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2012, 11:33:56 PM »
so like that extra click extendeds the life of the battery with the lights on? because the start ignitions click (the first one) does the same exact thing as the second click except you cant start the bike
If you have the bike wired per factory, the second switch position for US models ONLY lights the tail run lamp. (6-8 watts)

You can't tell the difference between that and powering the entire bike (120 watts)?   Oh yeah, I see what you mean about the "exact same thing".   ???
Perhaps your bulbs are dim.


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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 01:00:36 AM »
Do you just enjoy talking down to people? It seems you tend to do it often.

You can catch more flies with honey than you can vinegar.

My 76F is still using the original wiring harness. And it operates the same way as Smooth's. Tail and headlight burn.But the signals,brakes,starter button and ignition are disabled
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 05:21:21 AM »
Some people probably just want to kill the flies.

Battery is charged back up.  Hopefully I will not do this again for a few months.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2012, 09:46:57 AM »
Do you just enjoy talking down to people? It seems you tend to do it often.

You can catch more flies with honey than you can vinegar.

My 76F is still using the original wiring harness. And it operates the same way as Smooth's. Tail and headlight burn.But the signals,brakes,starter button and ignition are disabled

I think some of you newbies don't understand Lloyd or his sense of humor. He is a very helpful and useful member of this forum and like some other members here, exhibits a very dry wit from time to time. You seem to be butthurt over something that didn't pertain to you, and I'm sure if xsmooth69x has a problem, he can take it up with TT himself. And only speaking from personal experience, I think you tend to catch more flies with #$%* than honey will ever catch.  ;) ;D
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 09:50:29 AM »
Number one thing I was taught when I first started to drive, and then to ride.


Always take a look back at your vehicle as you walk away from it. Couldn't tell you how many times I looked back and saw a dome light on, or the tail lights on, or a little gas dribble because I left the petcock on, etc.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 10:05:09 AM »
Do you just enjoy talking down to people? It seems you tend to do it often.

You can catch more flies with honey than you can vinegar.

My 76F is still using the original wiring harness. And it operates the same way as Smooth's. Tail and headlight burn.But the signals,brakes,starter button and ignition are disabled

I think some of you newbies don't understand Lloyd or his sense of humor. He is a very helpful and useful member of this forum and like some other members here, exhibits a very dry wit from time to time. You seem to be butthurt over something that didn't pertain to you, and I'm sure if xsmooth69x has a problem, he can take it up with TT himself. And only speaking from personal experience, I think you tend to catch more flies with #$%* than honey will ever catch.  ;) ;D

I seem to be butt hurt over something that doesn't pertain to me?!?! Butthurt?!?!- I have no idea what provoked that. If YOU happen to be butt hurt over what I said,I apologize.Then again,I wasn't talking to you. Regardless,thank you for being concerned about the well being of my butt.


For the record,dry wit is fine,but rudeness is never funny.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 10:25:45 AM »
Number one thing I was taught when I first started to drive, and then to ride.


Always take a look back at your vehicle as you walk away from it. Couldn't tell you how many times I looked back and saw a dome light on, or the tail lights on, or a little gas dribble because I left the petcock on, etc.

I did.  I always look back at my bike when I walk away because I know I will miss her madly until I can get back to her.  Problem was she was backed into the parking spot.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 12:14:53 PM »
Do you just enjoy talking down to people? It seems you tend to do it often.
I'd like to hear your conversation with a two year old about the intricacies of the human Psyche, nuclear physics, or electrical RF theory, in a sincere attempt to have the 2 year old understand and absorb the information in a useful way.

You can catch more flies with honey than you can vinegar.
I don't want to catch flies, I want to train and educate them to do the right thing.  But, like with many in this forum, there is a huge language barrier, which may or may not be related to basic intelligence, or ignorance.  The former can't be trained, the later can, provided a will to do so.

My 76F is still using the original wiring harness. And it operates the same way as Smooth's. Tail and headlight burn.But the signals,brakes,starter button and ignition are disabled
Then your bikes are broken.  Why haven't you fixed them?  The wiring diagram shows a battery connection to only the brown wire circuit in the II position, and the brown wire only routes to the tail lamp.  Why  or how, does your headlight get power when the switch is in the park position?


Back to topic:
I can tell you that the CB550 battery will NOT power the tail light for 9 hrs while at work.  AND, if the battery is more than 2 years old, the bike is unlikely to kick start, either.  Jump starting and keeping the revs above 2k with the headlight off will get you home (recommend idle knob tweak).  Been there, done that.  With the shutdown routine modified to check the tail light before walking away, being stranded only happened just that one time.
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2012, 01:54:36 PM »
I really don't understand what teaching all that to a two year has to do with anything. Using all that big, smart vocabulary really doesn't prove anything. Other than the fact that maybe you enjoy talking in such a way to feel dominant over others. Your choice, no biggie

As far as my bike being broke. How? So your saying my harness has magically connect wires to the switch all by itself?  Possible. She does seem to be possessed at times. Lol
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Re: Turned Switch Wrong Way at Work Yesterday
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2012, 02:53:02 PM »
Number one thing I was taught when I first started to drive, and then to ride.


Always take a look back at your vehicle as you walk away from it. Couldn't tell you how many times I looked back and saw a dome light on, or the tail lights on, or a little gas dribble because I left the petcock on, etc.

I did.  I always look back at my bike when I walk away because I know I will miss her madly until I can get back to her.  Problem was she was backed into the parking spot.

Ohhh no bueno. Glad you got it started though!
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