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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2017, 08:15:16 PM »
Wait, there is another white wire from the regulator to the field coil.

Honda's wire diagram clearly shows grey to the winker relay.
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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2017, 08:32:46 PM »
Attached is a pic of the three winker wires I have (winker only has two flat male connections, and I think B and G markings).








Here is a picture, albeit a small one, of the harness I bought . Part #: 24-4004 here: http://www.vintagecb750.com/products/82/monthly-sales. If you look real closely you can see the white, black and green winker connectors stacked on one another.
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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2017, 08:58:51 PM »
TwoTired, Gene, and the picture of the harness I had made me realize the white/black/green connectors are actually run to the harness and the grey and black connector run to the winker. Even the friggin colors match up so this one is on me. That seemed to fix the blinker issues I was having.

Now I have no headlamp, no taillight (unless brakes are applied) and the starter button doesn't work. I have a male black/red, a female brown red, and a brown blue from the buzzer that are all without pairs.

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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2017, 10:42:32 AM »
Now I have no headlamp, no taillight (unless brakes are applied) and the starter button doesn't work. I have a male black/red, a female brown red, and a brown blue from the buzzer that are all without pairs.

The black/red is another bar control circuit (right side) taking power from the starter button, which powers either the headlight or the starter solenoid from the black wire.  Black/ red is internal harness joined to the Br/red, providing power to the Headlight fuse.
Brown/blue would go to turn buzzer, if you have one, or left unconnected if you don't.  Female connectors can be left dangling.
Brown/red is headlight power which routes from Fuse block to bar control Hi/Lo switch.  Which of those is nearer to the wire you have loose?  I suspect since it's female, it should go to the bar control harness.

Methodology:
Wires unplugged and hot would have a female connector, to avoid making a grounding contact if it vibrates apart.  So, what you have is likely sourced from the fuse block, to be connected to the headlight Hi/Lo switch.

Tail light is the BR circuit, routes from Key switch to tail.  You have the Brown plugged into the harness?

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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2017, 12:20:25 PM »

Give this interactive wiring diagram a peek.  Allows you to enable or disable various aspects of the entire bikes wiring diagram allowing you to easily focus on the components you are concerned with at the moment.

http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/wiring.html

There is an incredible amount of knowledge floating around here, so be patient.
I'm sure these guys can help get you sorted out.   
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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2017, 02:12:03 PM »
Now I have no headlamp, no taillight (unless brakes are applied) and the starter button doesn't work. I have a male black/red, a female brown red, and a brown blue from the buzzer that are all without pairs.

The black/red is another bar control circuit (right side) taking power from the starter button, which powers either the headlight or the starter solenoid from the black wire.  Black/ red is internal harness joined to the Br/red, providing power to the Headlight fuse.
Brown/blue would go to turn buzzer, if you have one, or left unconnected if you don't.  Female connectors can be left dangling.
Brown/red is headlight power which routes from Fuse block to bar control Hi/Lo switch.  Which of those is nearer to the wire you have loose?  I suspect since it's female, it should go to the bar control harness.

Methodology:
Wires unplugged and hot would have a female connector, to avoid making a grounding contact if it vibrates apart.  So, what you have is likely sourced from the fuse block, to be connected to the headlight Hi/Lo switch.

Tail light is the BR circuit, routes from Key switch to tail.  You have the Brown plugged into the harness?

Cheers,

I am on travel for work this week (as of today) so I will have to play some more when I get back this weekend. I did connect the brown/red and black/red connectors and I do not remember it making a difference on anything. Of course other things can be shorted/out of whack.

As always, I greatly appreciate the advice and patience of those that are offerring their assistance.

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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2017, 02:23:40 PM »
You'll get there. So close.
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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2017, 06:29:53 PM »
http://www.vintagecb750.com/parts/instructions/12-0301.pdf


Do you have this switch, and have you wired it like this? I must admit I've not read this whole thread, so disregard this post if it doesn't apply

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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2017, 10:33:48 AM »
http://www.vintagecb750.com/parts/instructions/12-0301.pdf

Do you have this switch, and have you wired it like this? I must admit I've not read this whole thread, so disregard this post if it doesn't apply

I do have that switch, and the wires, other than the two cases I mentioned earlier, all have counterparts on the loom/harness. I will try to unwire the on/off slider since it says it is optional.

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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2017, 10:36:13 AM »

Give this interactive wiring diagram a peek.  Allows you to enable or disable various aspects of the entire bikes wiring diagram allowing you to easily focus on the components you are concerned with at the moment.

http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/wiring.html

There is an incredible amount of knowledge floating around here, so be patient.
I'm sure these guys can help get you sorted out.   

This is friggin awesome. Just took a look during lunch at work. I will have to play with this a little more this weekend.

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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2018, 08:12:52 AM »
Cshanek,
Did you solve this? I am having similar issues.
Thanks.
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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2018, 08:42:21 AM »
have you checked the silicon diode ?    that solved my 76 k6 problems ,,   just a thought

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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2018, 10:49:56 AM »
Thanks rocket; I'm going to open a new thread.
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Re: Weird, relentless, cb750 starter button/wiring issues
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2018, 01:13:40 PM »
Is that the rectifier?