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Offline exf5003

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Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« on: August 22, 2012, 01:07:43 PM »
I just got out of work and my 74 750 is completely dead. No lights or anything with the turn of the key.  The fuses look good, I keep spare 15 amp fuse with me and replaced it with no luck. She started right up this morning with no problems and didn't notice anything strange. My ground is well connected and clean.
I have been using this bike daily without any problems in weeks.
I'll have to wait for a ride home to grab some tools and check battery.
Any suggestions on what all I should check and go through? I do not want to leave my bike behind parked in the city...  :-\
Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2012, 01:08:42 PM »
Bad ignition switch?
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2012, 01:14:53 PM »
Yes, try jiggling your ignition switch and see if you get power. These switches wear out over time.
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2012, 01:19:53 PM »
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Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2012, 01:22:11 PM »
+2. Loose ignition contacts are a common problem.
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 01:27:17 PM »
Thanks for the quick replies, I jiggled the ignition switch and pushed it in to try and fix a loose connection but no luck. I should b getting a ride soon so I'll get my multi meter and tools. Any other suggestions?
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 01:30:22 PM »
How old is the battery? They can die that fast. Find a spare to take with you. Let us know what you find out. I hope someone did not disconnect a lead on you for a joke?
« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 01:33:13 PM by Johnie »
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 01:44:06 PM »
Battery is new beginning of this year. Ignition is about two years old so I do not suspect it going bad, but who knows. Im hoping for a simple fix right about now even if its a cruel joke.
Any other suggestions would be great, thanks again guys.
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 01:53:46 PM »
When I lost the key to mine I gave it power by crossing one of the other fuses to the main one, if you are stuck.
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 02:34:08 PM »
Hey Les, how did you cross them? Never done that, don't want to screw anything else up?
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2012, 02:59:21 PM »
I had a 3 month old battery from Batteries Plus die. It showed volts but produced no amps. I was happy to receive a free replacement. Never bought another from there. I stay with the Yuasa now.
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 03:11:23 PM »
Quote from: exf5003 on August 22, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
Hey Les, how did you cross them? Never done that, don't want to screw anything else up?
I just put a wire from one fuse to the other. I can't remember which but one will be the main fuse.
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2012, 03:34:51 PM »
Battery is showing 12.6 volts, but worried could be what Johnie posted. Might have to take it out and get it checked out. Wish I had a spare to test against. If its not the battery and jiggling ignition doesn't work... anything else I can try?  ???
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2012, 03:42:17 PM »
As I recall, the ignition switch is located under the tank and has 4 wires.  If that's correct, unplug  the ignition switch pigtail from the main harness.  Then, jumper the red wire to the black wire on the harness.  Do you he lights?
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2012, 03:48:43 PM »
Test for power at your fuses.
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2012, 04:31:43 PM »
Quote from: OldSchool_IsCool on August 22, 2012, 03:42:17 PM
As I recall, the ignition switch is located under the tank and has 4 wires.  If that's correct, unplug  the ignition switch pigtail from the main harness.  Then, jumper the red wire to the black wire on the harness.  Do you he lights?

Do you have lights????
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2012, 05:15:52 PM »
No. It's in the original post.
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2012, 05:27:21 PM »
But do the lights come on when the red ignition wire is jumpered to black?
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2012, 06:25:29 PM »
Being parked in the city I am limited to what I can do out there. I was going to have it towed but I started pushing it down hill with ignition in on position. Remind you that no lights or anything came on before, but while slowly pushing the lights came on and I was able to start her up!  :D
I just now got her home safe  ;D I turned ignition off and tried again. When turning the key the lights didn't come on again, so I tried again quickly and the lights lit up. I've tries another dozen times and lights up now.
Am I safe to say that my ignition switch could be going bad?
Thanks again everyone for the help I was scarred leaving my any out in the city streets!
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2012, 06:42:45 PM »
I wouldn't trust that key switch.  You mentioned that it was replaced 2 years ago.  Emgo, by chance?

Oh, and glad to hear you got 'er home safe!!
« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 06:45:19 PM by OldSchool_IsCool »
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2012, 08:56:02 PM »
Almost sounds like dead battery...
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2012, 06:12:53 AM »
Tested the battery and came out good. I have been trying to reproduce what happened yesterday a good dozen + times, but has been turning on like normal.
I took a risk and drove her into work, i just cant let her sit with such a beautiful 80 degree day out. Crossing my fingers thought  ;)
Everything seems to be pointing to a bad ignition switch.  I have noticed that the key has been harder to insert and pull out of the ignition switch, maybe some innards are going bad ???
it is a cheap Emgo... do you guys have any recommendations for a better ignition switch that wont break the bank? < $70
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2012, 06:21:04 AM »
Factor in what it would have cost you for that tow yesterday and I bet $70 starts to sound like a bargain! 

But yea, there prolly is an option somewhere between Emgo and OEM.
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Can I have a motorcycle when I get old enough?
If you take care of it.
What do you have to do?
Lot’s of things. You’ve been watching me.
Will you show me all of them?
Sure.
Is it hard?
Not if you have the right attitudes. It’s having the right attitudes that’s hard.

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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2012, 06:29:08 AM »
This is cheap enough, don't know what shipping is like tho.

http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB750K-FOUR-1976-USA/part_170150/
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Re: Dead 750k4 Help Plz!
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2012, 07:03:09 AM »
Quote from: LesterPiglet on August 22, 2012, 05:15:52 PM
No. It's in the original post.

My bad I see it now.
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