Topic: Diepppe

[wardenerd]

Bobby R    "It is good that war is so terrible or we would grow too fond of it "   R E Lee may not be the exact quote

[BobbyR]

Amen, Bobby R.
 History repeats itself and heartache brings new beginnings.
 What would happen if the U.S. brought back the draft?

Keys we would have marching in the streets like the 1960s.

[BobbyR]

Bobby R    "It is good that war is so terrible or we would grow too fond of it "   R E Lee may not be the exact quote

If anyone would kinow it would be General Lee. He was technically a Traitor for a short time. He was one of the finest US Generals and a Man of principal.

[demon78]

Bobby my intent was not glorifying war, it was at the most to plant a seed in my country men's and others minds that when it goes pear shaped in Syria, Lebanon, Iran, and like that, they don't hop on the patriotic train and say we have to do something about it, because at least my leader has no goddam idea what is at stake and how many will die so that he looks good for his friends. The other thing is Dieppe was a disaster not a glorious battle and the so called leaders and allies should have taken responsibility for it.
Bill the demon.

[BobbyR]

Yes Bill, it is easy to send Men to be killed and maimed when you don't have to live through it yourself.

[BeSeeingYou]

Bobby not tweaking you, just pointing out that we as a group periodically are looked down upon by our allies much the same as the Poles, Australians, Kiwis etc  were at various times, considered "cannon fodder" as it were.
Bill the demon.

      I don't think you have to look too far to see that the Brits and Americans where just as prone to using their own troops as cannon fodder on occasion.  Monty's Operation Market Garden comes to mind where he had his ass handed to him by a bunch of understrength/refitting/ support troop/ invalid formations of the Wehrmacht.
      Our own esteemed General Patton conceived of a brilliant operation to send 300+ men 50 miles behind German lines to free POW's at Oflag Stalag 13 near Hammelburg  (Yeah I know it sounds like Hogan's Heros but it is true).  The fact that his son-in-law was at the camp did not play any part in the operation.   All but a few dozen troops in the operation where killed or captured.
      The folly of war or maybe to be more accurate the folly of our leaders as they are the ones who bring it about due to neglect, incompetence, ego, or the worsts of all reasons the grab for power, influence and wealth. 

[azuredesign]

Maybe we should stop glamorizing War. It is not very pretty in person.

Very reflective and sobering point.
Thanks