Topic: Are the standard 4 into 4 exhausts still available? YES - ANSWERED!

[drj434343]

I've got a pretty nice 4 into 1 exhaust on my 71' 500, but everything else on the bike is unrestored original, and I've been toying with the idea of finding a 4 into 4 solution instead.

I found that Power Sports Pro lists what I think are the part numbers of each of the 4 original exhausts (18300-374-707, 18350-374-707, 18400-374-707, 18450-374-707), although these part numbers claim to be replacement numbers.

http://www.powersportspro.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=KUS#/Honda/CB500_A__MOTORCYCLE%2c_JPN%2c_VIN%23_CB500-1000001/MUFFLER/CB500-JPN-A/2Y143230F14323014B

I'm wondering if these are the real deal.  If I wanted to spend the money, am I looking at the right place?

Cheers,
Jason

[HondaMan]

I've got a pretty nice 4 into 1 exhaust on my 71' 500, but everything else on the bike is unrestored original, and I've been toying with the idea of finding a 4 into 4 solution instead.

I found that Power Sports Pro lists what I think are the part numbers of each of the 4 original exhausts (18300-374-707, 18350-374-707, 18400-374-707, 18450-374-707), although these part numbers claim to be replacement numbers.

http://www.powersportspro.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=KUS#/Honda/CB500_A__MOTORCYCLE%2c_JPN%2c_VIN%23_CB500-1000001/MUFFLER/CB500-JPN-A/2Y143230F14323014B

I'm wondering if these are the real deal.  If I wanted to spend the money, am I looking at the right place?

Cheers,
Jason

IIWY, I'd ignore Power Sports Pro's listing(s). I recently tried to order their listed Honda Special Tools, and 5 months after they charged my credit card, and many, many e-mails and other attempted contacts (by me), they finally came back and said, "Oh, [gee], Honda hasn't made those since 1985". They list absolutely everything by part number, hoping to reel in some fish along the way...mostly suckers, IMO.

[CoachDoc]

I ordered the OEM Honda 4-4 pipes last year from Bike Bandit. They've been my go to for parts for a while- no complaints from me.

[bryanj]

They were available 12 months ago but rumours are that they are now discontinued so try it and see. Also yes the 374 is the new number---its the 550 part which is identical except for the adittion of a load of legal crap which is rolled into the metal but at least its in a place you cant see it when they are fitted

[LoVel]

IIWY, I'd ignore Power Sports Pro's listing(s). I recently tried to order their listed Honda Special Tools, and 5 months after they charged my credit card, and many, many e-mails and other attempted contacts (by me), they finally came back and said, "Oh, [gee], Honda hasn't made those since 1985". They list absolutely everything by part number, hoping to reel in some fish along the way...mostly suckers, IMO.

I have obtained some pieces from these guys but have also run into the same issue that HondaMan mentions although they told me within a few days the part was no longer available.  In my experience bike bandit does keep a more accurate list of what is available.

Wow, big price difference between the two.  For that difference I might try Dillon Brothers frst and see what happens.

[lucky]

I've got a pretty nice 4 into 1 exhaust on my 71' 500, but everything else on the bike is unrestored original, and I've been toying with the idea of finding a 4 into 4 solution instead.

I found that Power Sports Pro lists what I think are the part numbers of each of the 4 original exhausts (18300-374-707, 18350-374-707, 18400-374-707, 18450-374-707), although these part numbers claim to be replacement numbers.

http://www.powersportspro.com/pages/OemParts?aribrand=KUS#/Honda/CB500_A__MOTORCYCLE%2c_JPN%2c_VIN%23_CB500-1000001/MUFFLER/CB500-JPN-A/2Y143230F14323014B

I'm wondering if these are the real deal.  If I wanted to spend the money, am I looking at the right place?

Cheers,
Jason

IIWY, I'd ignore Power Sports Pro's listing(s). I recently tried to order their listed Honda Special Tools, and 5 months after they charged my credit card, and many, many e-mails and other attempted contacts (by me), they finally came back and said, "Oh, [gee], Honda hasn't made those since 1985". They list absolutely everything by part number, hoping to reel in some fish along the way...mostly suckers, IMO.

Thanks HONDAMAN for letting us know.

[iron_worker]

I bought a reproduction set from CMSNL and have been happy with them so far with most a riding season on them. They also offer OEM baffles but for more $ of course.

IW

[drj434343]

OK, did some legwork on the phone and it doesn't look good. 

I called Bike Bandit, Power Sports Pro, and Dillon Brothers.  All 3 listed those pieces as NLA and no one had any left in physical inventory.  All 3 still allow you to add those part numbers to your basket on the website:)

So unless a supplier has NOS sitting on a shelf, looks like we're out of luck on OEM.

I'll check CMSNL, never heard of them.

[drj434343]

I bought a reproduction set from CMSNL and have been happy with them so far with most a riding season on them. They also offer OEM baffles but for more $ of course.

IW

The only set I could find at CMSNL was what they called a new production run from the original manufacturer.  Not sure if these are what you bought, but they wanted a cool $2400 for the set.

[goldarrow]

Or you could keep eyes out for a set on feebay, if I remembered correctly last set sold for just over 500 plus shipping

[drj434343]

Or you could keep eyes out for a set on feebay, if I remembered correctly last set sold for just over 500 plus shipping

I've been scanning for the last few weeks.  So far the only offerings are piecemeal, and in terrible (rust, holes) condition.  Either a set comes on eventually, or perhaps I can slowly get one piece at a time as they come up individually in better shape.

[Tugboat]

When I rebuilt a 500 last year, the owner got new OEM 4-4 pipes for it. All-in it was around $1k, but that was for new clamps, gaskets, etc.

[Untold]

I've got a set, but they aren't mint.  I believe one or two of the pipes have a small rust hole or 2.  I haven't looked at them in a while. 

[KeithB]

$2400!!!
That's double what I paid a couple of years back.
Mind you, there wasn't a shortage then...

[Magilla]

I ordered the OEM Honda 4-4 pipes last year from Bike Bandit. They've been my go to for parts for a while- no complaints from me.

At Bike Bandit a complete new exhaust for my 750 is almost $2000.  Thats twice what I paid for the bike.  I guess it aint cheap to restore one of these.  No wonder so many people Cafe' them.

[SohRon]

The pipes I got from Bike Bandit for the '550 came to @ $900, IIRC. I found one of the mufflers had been bent in shipping, and they sent a replacement out ASAP before I even returned the damaged item. Very good to work with. It would truly suck if these were no longer available.

[drj434343]

The pipes I got from Bike Bandit for the '550 came to @ $900, IIRC. I found one of the mufflers had been bent in shipping, and they sent a replacement out ASAP before I even returned the damaged item. Very good to work with. It would truly suck if these were no longer available.

Bike Bandit confirmed over the phone all these part numbers were no longer available, and they had zero stock.

[iron_worker]

I paid $1200 for my whole reproduction set with new clamps, a bunch of hardware, and a couple odds and ends I needed anyway. So far as I can tell them are more or less identical to the stockers but probably have different numbers stamped in them.

IW

[chickenman_26]

They were available 12 months ago but rumours are that they are now discontinued so try it and see. Also yes the 374 is the new number---its the 550 part which is identical except for the adittion of a load of legal crap which is rolled into the metal but at least its in a place you cant see it when they are fitted

I bought a new set about 6 months ago. They're all HM323 and were the last ones in stock in the US. I see the number is now 374, and Service Honda shows them as not discontinued. I hope they're better than the 323s I got. They were made in China by some company Honda contracted with, and I had to exchange 2 of them, because they were bent wrong and didn't fit the bike. Chrome is rather crappy, too.

Stu

[CycleRanger]

My favorite dealer still lists 1,2, and 3 still available and one reason I like them is they don't list stuff they can't get.
http://www.westernhonda.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=2144264&category=Motorcycles&make=HONDA&year=1971&fveh=125051

Give them a call.

[brooze72]

Anybody check David Silver Spares? They used to have some reproduction units for about $1200 as I recall.

[saxamaphone]

I know CMSNL have them but they are very expensive.  1495.00 Euros I believe.

[CoachDoc]

I ordered the OEM Honda 4-4 pipes last year from Bike Bandit. They've been my go to for parts for a while- no complaints from me.

At Bike Bandit a complete new exhaust for my 750 is almost $2000.  Thats twice what I paid for the bike.  I guess it aint cheap to restore one of these.  No wonder so many people Cafe' them.

Wow, that price is unreal. I paid a shade under $900 for a complete set less than a year ago. Sounds like price gouging will be the rule of the day from here on now that stock is depleted worldwide. What a shame. Should be a good market for a quality manufacturer to jump in and make quality OEM replicas.

[motad_uk]

the problem in making "quality" reproductions is that the oem stuff was designed to last 2 or 3 years and tends not to be good quality.

Motad has lasted 40 years because the oem failed so quickly

buiding in such short term obselence is quite difficult for us when many of our "normal" replacements are lasting 10-15 years

[Slug750]

Not sure whether an aftermarket custom 4 into 4 from Australia might interest you. Stll has the four pipes all the way through and sound fantastic - a bit like the originals with baffles removed. Here's a shot of them on my K2. They cost me about $900AUS six months ago and a club member here has them in stock. Mine are just sitting in place and need to be fixed at the rear when I sort out rear footpegs. Slug