Topic: Nominate your favorite member's bike for the August SOHC4 of the month!

[heffay]

chopper, bobber, rat/custom, cafe, stock, race/replica

[bill440cars]

             Lots of really awesome bikes nominated each time and this month's no exception. That being
    said, I'd like to nominate kghost's Gold Wing. That is truly a very unique and, in it's own way, an
    awesome looking bike. I hope he'll accept. later on, Bill

[kghost]

Hahaha 

I accept for the winger but there are some cool new pics of my 750 in the gallery.

[bill440cars]

Hahaha 

I accept for the winger but there are some cool new pics of my 750 in the gallery.

                   kghost, your 750, no doubt, is one sharp looking ride but, the Wing (to me) is so unique.
         Let's face it, you've got a couple of really choice bikes. There's just something about that Wing
         though. Good Luck and I'll catch you later on, Bill

[Orcinus]

As to what bikes should be in what catagory, I agree with nominating what ever the nominater thinks fits that catagory.  If someone wants to nominate a stocker with clip on's as a cafe, well it will get sorted out by the vote.  If it then doesn't win, it's not saying that it isn't a great bike, it just isn't a great cafe.  I found last month, that I loved all the bikes nominated, but couldn't pick one in my mind because they were all so different.  I found my self leaning towards my favorite "style" of bike as opposed to the "best bike"  Seems to defeat the idea of a BOTM.

I would like to second Heffay six catagories, they sound like good choices to me.

As long as people keep restoring these great bikes, and sharing on this forum.  We're all winners here.

[Raul CB750K1]

As a nominated this month, I also second having categories. It's like asking you what do you rather have, sons or daughters. Each one has his/her own traits and it's difficult to pick one. Maybe we could do something like this:

Cafe racers
Stockers/Resto
Choppers/bobbers
Rat bikes
Drag racers/performance mods
Optimized bikes (old CB's with new performance components)

So, if somebody nominate Carpy's bike for the stocker category it will have nothing to do against the rest. Each voter will choose which one likes best based on what are the points all the bikes will be judged upon, and not personal preferences or the mood of the day. Giving the participants the chance to explain in a few words why do they think his bike deserves to be the winner could also be something entertaining... ;-)


Raul

[DME]

So, if somebody nominate Carpy's bike for the stocker category it will have nothing to do against the rest. Each voter will choose which one likes best based on what are the points all the bikes will be judged upon, and not personal preferences or the mood of the day. Giving the participants the chance to explain in a few words why do they think his bike deserves to be the winner could also be something entertaining... ;-)


Raul

Isn´t personal preferences what it´s all about?

I think the fact that it´s hard to vote is a good thing as it shows how many good bikes there is on this forum.

I did not build my bike to win competitions, I built it because it´s the bike that I want.
I love it myself and if someone else also thinks it´s nice, that fantastic!
If no one else likes it, well, it doesn´t really matter because I still love it!

Another thing that might speak against categories is the number of votes listed. Was it 78 registered voters this month?
Don´t know why so few vote. Especially when all "categories" can be nominated at the same time?
The risk with "categories" is that the "stocker/resto"-people won´t even bother to look at the "ratbikes" and the "caferacer"-guys (and girls!) wont take an interest in "stockers" and so on.
That could bring the number of voters down even further.

I think the BOTM seems to be a nice and easy-going "competition" and I´m VERY proud to be nominated, make no mistake about that!
I also think the correct bike won last month, Chippys bike is built in a style I have never seen before and I think innovative ideas should be premiered.
It´s also a bike that I would have trouble to "categorize"....
Rat bike? No. Caferacer? Nah. Stocker? Noo. Chopper/Bobber? Nope.

So what is it then?
It´s a bike. And a great looking bike at that! Personally it was my favorite and even though I´m really more into caferacers, it blew my mind away!

My 2 cents (again... perhaps I´ve spent a dollar on this soon... ;-))

Cheers
Daniel

[ProTeal55]

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I thought I would put my 4cents in.

I agree with having different classes for this "popularity contest".
I mean , how can someone with a bike like mine , actually think he is gonna
win when up against someone like CHIPPYFIVE50 or someone else with shinny paint, and everything else era correct ? I am not saying this to get my bike voted in, because in all honesty I don't care either way, just making a point..

[heffay]

these are all great comments about categories vs. 1 single category (sohc4) i'll run a poll soon to see whether categories are preferred or not... for now, the way the contest is... is the way it is 

also, i hate to be the bearer of bad news but, kghost's sohc4 (inline) can be nominated but not the wing... sorry kg.   

[kghost]

Hahaha 

I accept for the winger but there are some cool new pics of my 750 in the gallery.

also, i hate to be the bearer of bad news but, kghost's sohc4 (inline) can be nominated but not the wing... sorry kg.

Hahahahahahahhahahhaha 

Come on folks, Surely someone will scream discrimination 

Seriously its ok heffey

Just nominate it and all is forgiven 

We get to vote? Damn I haven't paid attention to how to vote for the bikes much less the catagory....
Damn best do my homework lol

[bill440cars]

       

these are all great comments about categories vs. 1 single category (sohc4) i'll run a poll soon to see whether categories are preferred or not... for now, the way the contest is... is the way it is 

also, i hate to be the bearer of bad news but, kghost's sohc4 (inline) can be nominated but not the wing... sorry kg.   

 
 
        Might know I'd do something that's not allowed, it is a SOHC and it is a four. I didn't realize that it had to be an "in-line" four.  Shame we don't have an others category. No, I know that that would be going too far. There's absolutely nothing wrong with kghost's 750 and he's pretty proud of it also, as well he should be. I just thought the Wing should get some recognition cause it is a great looking ride for sure. So, I'll guess I'll withdraw my nomination for the Wing and put the 750 in it's place. I have to apologize to kghost , I only knew about the Wing and I checked out the gallery photos (after he said something about them) and realized that he had a great looking 750 in addition to the Wing. So, moving right along, I guess I'll get out of here for now and catch you guys later on.   

                                                              Bill

[Klark Kent]

you are right dme, and its a good thing you spoke up cuz i was about to rip 71CB750 a new a-hole for that grape juice comment.

-KK

even if it was a sandcast a-hole?
-KK

[bill440cars]

 



                     So now, that I have officially nominated kghost's 750 instead of his "Wing", how about a 
              2nd on it?       
                                                                     Later on,  Bill

[Orcinus]

I'll second Kghosts Black Bullet.  Fine looking machine.

[Objectionableone]

I'm flattered - thanks for the nomination.

Ben

[kghost]

Thanks Bill and Orcinus,

I Accept

[madbunny]

um, i think bike of the month is pretty distinct and clear.
you vote for your personal favorite bike out of the nominated selections.

if life was about easy choices honda wouldn't have made us choose between 350/400/500/550/750...

i don't think the number of voting boardies warrant categorized selections every month and in the end will simply become a bigger pain in the ass to upkeep than it's worth.

have a bike of the year with categories if you must, i think that may garner enough attention to be worth while.

[MRieck]

My opinion is the same as it is for government....the less the better.

[cd811]

interesting thread because I(and a lot of other people) have no idea what category my bike is

[kghost]

Damn it if ya wack it up into catagory's I will have to build a bike for each. 


hmmm, come to think of it .....what a perfect excuse 

Seriously I agree with Mrieck

[bill440cars]

          cd811,

                   Your bike is a .......... ...........! Yep, that's exactly what it is allright! 

                                                 Later on, Bill

[Klark Kent]

My opinion is the same as it is for government....the less the better.

whose gov't?
-KK

[madbunny]

interesting thread because I(and a lot of other people) have no idea what category my bike is

pristine condition stocker.
the confederate bikini gal is an incorrect factory option for your make/model so we'll have to deduct two points...

[Andoo]

This is not your son's T-BALL game. Everyone is NOT a winner!
If you start cannibalizing (categorizing) things it becomes dull.

 

[Klark Kent]

I am happy to participate in any form of the BOTM and to tell you the truth I am sorry I brought up this issue, which may turn out to be not an issue at all.  We will have to wait and see.  I would rather not have to remove the option for a voter to vote on type alone, and achieve tthe same thing by having more detailed critique of the bikes up for consideration.  Perhaps that is what was missing that made the decision so hard for so many people. 

This is really not crucial so this will be my final attempt to keep the discussion a discussion.  it is not about making the choice easier.  while it is a proposed remedy to the difficulty people had picking between vastly different bikes, the decision it would foster would end up being HARDER.  rather than picking your favorite type of bike, the categorization (cannibalization?) would make the voter forget about the type, which has been somewhat streamlined, and figure out what separates one from the other.  a more critical process. a harder decision. and probably lead to some good discussion.  But it occurs to me now that we COULD be engaging in this process more already- without the categories. 

So, BOTM will work either way, but I for one would feel prouder if I beat out other similar efforts, than if my bike won a populaarity contest because it was of the most popular type- know ing that there were other bikes, possibly more impressive on some level, that were simply of a less popular type.  While this case is clearly hypothetical, "Trendiest type of bike this month" doesn't have the same ring to it. 

The allegations that this is an effort to make the decision easy, as well as comparisons to eating other humans I believe miss the point, so I wanted to put the point back out there.  However, I really don't think it is that important and my original comment was more of an off the cuff observation than anything else.  This issue will only be important if we notice that one type of bike keeps winning and great xamples of other types keep losing- only time will tell if we need to categorize in order to give all types a fair chance and an arena to compete where they have a chance of winning.  This is not the same as peewee league tball or otherwise everybody wins practices, it is more akin to racing 250ccs against 250ccs and 500ccs against same, to create the most level playing field in order to produce a winner that has truely done something special to separate itself from the others who shared that similar starting point.  I suppose the similar starting point can simply be Honda SOHC4 (as it is now) and the categories can end there (as they do now,) so long as we are happy with the results, because in the end we are the ONLY ones who care at all about this.

I love that my offhand comment ahs generated real consideration from the organizer of the contest as well as the voters and entrants, and even the vitriol of less dialogue-hungry members. it is great to know you can be heard and taken seriously amongst people you respect.

 
Sorry for the long post-= been biting my tongue for a little while.
-KK