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eBay - Perfect place to sell your no papers "stolen" bikes
« on: July 02, 2006, 09:59:06 PM »
I have had about enough of eBay.

1. You can sell a potentially Hot frame with no papers....
2. However if you have LEGIT papers for your bike, and IT BELONGS TO YOU. You can't sell the frame. WTF

I list a parts bike that we have clean paperwork for. And Evil Bay pull the Mother F'in auction. Can't wait to get big enough to kill off ALL of our eVil Bay sales.  >:( >:( I relisted it and they can kiss my ass.

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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2006, 10:06:29 PM »
You better stay on EBay's good side mate, they'll still be there long after all the non-Ebay bike wreckers have gone broke and shut up shop. That's what's happening here in the land of Oz, at least. Either go with them, or get left behind in their wake.................... :'(
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2006, 10:09:39 PM »
With them banning the selling of frames with papers makes eBay a haven for selling stolen frames. Not that we would participate in this. Just seems like a crappy policy. Better yet it does not seem legal for all that matters, the hell with thier rules - it just does not look legal.

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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2006, 10:27:39 PM »
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense Tom, and of course over here we assume that a lot of stuff on Ebay is stolen property anyway.

I upset an Ebayer when I was selling some Koni shocks (he reckoned that I shouldn't have said they were "unobtainable" when you can buy Ikons, he'd just put Ikon's on his bike blah blah blah) so he reported me to Ebay and I got a listing violation because I mentioned other brands of shock. (Ikon, Hagon, Marzocchi)

I sent Ebay numerous emails questioning why I'd somehow violated their policy and it turned out that they don't have a clue about bikes or bike parts, so I suggested that they hire someone who knows what he's talking about so that he can "vet" the complaints made about their sellers, because what had really happened was that they had just assumed that if someone had gone to the trouble of complaining, there must have been something worth complaining about.

Bottom line is, we (you and I) need them, much more than they need us. Sure, if everyone rebels against Ebay, we'll bring 'em to their knees blah blah blah, but personally I love Ebay, I buy stuff I need, I make money to buy more stuff that I need when I sell my oil coolers, and I also get to sell stuff that I thought I'd need, but really don't. I hate the bike wreckers here, they're greedy bastards who for years have held me to ransom charging exorbitant prices for parts they get for nothing, so #$%* them, let them burn in hell for their sins, after they die poor and miserable, surrounded by rusty overpriced parts and no friends, as I blast past on my 1060cc "Ebay-mobile"! ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: eBay - Perfect place to sell your no papers "stolen" bikes
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2006, 10:56:26 PM »
and so ends the surman of terry.... :D ;D :P   peace
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2006, 11:05:08 PM »
and so ends the surman of terry.... :D ;D :P   peace

That's "Sermon" you heathen! ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2006, 11:23:29 PM »
*shrug*   wot eva.... :P....
you are never to old, to act like a kid... be safe
funny thing,chasing someone down hill on a bike 30 years older than theirs..
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2006, 01:21:42 AM »
Bloody Uni students butchering the language! Next thing you'll join the labour party, become Prime Minister and change the laws so I'll have to spell phonetically like all you unwashed intellectuals! >:( ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2006, 04:38:17 AM »
yeah might even try my hand at industrial relations.... couldnt be that hard!!!!!!....peace
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2006, 04:48:40 AM »
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Bloody Uni students butchering the language! Next thing you'll join the labour party, become Prime Minister and change the laws so I'll have to spell phonetically like all you unwashed intellectuals! 

All this ranting about proper spelling and language, etc. from a guy who spells labor with a "u."  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2006, 04:54:28 AM »
LOL.... hahahahah..... man i love this board   nothin is sacred!!!....thanx BOB!!!...peace
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funny thing,chasing someone down hill on a bike 30 years older than theirs..
he said \\\\\\\'it was like watching a 250kg unguided weapon getting stuck up you bum\\\\\\\ http://www.bikepics.com/members/trixtrem/

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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2006, 05:22:29 AM »
Bloody Uni students butchering the language! Next thing you'll join the labour party, become Prime Minister and change the laws so I'll have to spell phonetically like all you unwashed intellectuals! >:( ;D
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2006, 06:04:33 AM »
If you want to see English raped and pillaged, come visit some of the mountain counties around here.  It's hard on the phone sometimes because I still don't know how to hear it. Almost another language.

Anyhoo- why won't Ebay let you sell a frame with papers, and what does it matter if you list a product name?
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2006, 06:30:28 AM »
If you want to see English raped and pillaged, come visit some of the mountain counties around here.  It's hard on the phone sometimes because I still don't know how to hear it. Almost another language.

Anyhoo- why won't Ebay let you sell a frame with papers, and what does it matter if you list a product name?

I dont know why man, I see fools selling stuff all the time that is not what they said it is. Not that I care. But the frame thing is just dumb. Last I knew you could sell any part of any vehicle so long as you had the title. Afterall the thing belongs to you, right? They do not see it this way.

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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2006, 07:16:11 AM »
LOL.... hahahahah..... man i love this board   nothin is sacred!!!....thanx BOB!!!...peace

I'm sure I will be made to pay for my lame attempt at humor. I can hear Terry mulling it over from here.  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2006, 07:17:49 AM »
LOL.... hahahahah..... man i love this board   nothin is sacred!!!....thanx BOB!!!...peace

I'm sure I will be made to pay for my lame attempt at humor. I can hear Terry mulling it over from here.  ;D

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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2006, 12:12:58 PM »
That must be a new policy as I have sold frames on ebay,
both with and without papers.
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2006, 12:23:09 PM »
I just looked and found a bunch of "frame with clean title" listings?  Did they give a reason for pulling the listing?  What about re-listing as a "Parts Bike" with very, very few parts left on it, except for maybe the document holder taped to it.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2006, 02:10:15 PM »
LOL.... hahahahah..... man i love this board   nothin is sacred!!!....thanx BOB!!!...peace

I'm sure I will be made to pay for my lame attempt at humor. I can hear Terry mulling it over from here.  ;D

Go back and read my post again Bob, "Labour" is English, (the language of Oz) "Labor" is American. Being a university student and most likely ingesting copious quantities of drugs on a daily basis, Ben probably wouldn't know the difference, but I expected more from someone as old, and wise, as you?  ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2006, 04:33:19 PM »
That must be a new policy as I have sold frames on ebay,
both with and without papers.
michel
Will have to check this out.

This has been like this for a few years. The truth is if they catch you selling the frame with papers, they will pull the auction. No questions asked. This is why you will find guys selling frames with papers with intentional misspellings and whatever. The will even code word it.

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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2006, 06:09:12 PM »
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Go back and read my post again Bob, "Labour" is English, (the language of Oz) "Labor" is American. Being a university student and most likely ingesting copious quantities of drugs on a daily basis, Ben probably wouldn't know the difference, but I expected more from someone as old, and wise, as you? 

I'm aware of the English (and OZ) spelling, just pulling your leg again. Most folks think the American Revolution was about some foolishness related to taxation without representation. Actually it was about literary freedom and the practical conservation of "U's."  ;D ;D
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2006, 10:46:25 PM »
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Go back and read my post again Bob, "Labour" is English, (the language of Oz) "Labor" is American. Being a university student and most likely ingesting copious quantities of drugs on a daily basis, Ben probably wouldn't know the difference, but I expected more from someone as old, and wise, as you? 

I'm aware of the English (and OZ) spelling, just pulling your leg again. Most folks think the American Revolution was about some foolishness related to taxation without representation. Actually it was about literary freedom and the practical conservation of "U's."  ;D ;D

Well I'm glad you told me that Bob, I've been wondering for many years why you guys kicked the English out, I just thought it was because you couldn't stand their constant whining, for example: "It's too hot", "Your beaches are too clean and there's no poo in the water", "CB750's are too big and powerful for  spindly pasty Englishmen", "Your beer is too strong and cold", "your women are too attractive compared to our toothless hags", "You're too good at sports" etc etc? Or is that just the ones that we get here? ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2006, 01:47:08 AM »
I once listed some bootleg CD's, and listed as them trying to get some good money as they were collectable. A couple of the auctions were removed, so I just edited them and replaced "bootleg" for "rare". The fans already knew they were a bootleg -as normally you know which CD's has your favourite artist releases-, and they sold real, real well. Maybe you can use some imagination when describing the article. I don't think there is any eBay police watching out; they just do a search and when a forbidden word appears, they take a closer look.


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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2006, 10:04:20 PM »
What's the big deal?  If you actually have the title, it's most likely not hot so why can't you sell?  I would think the bikes with no papers, the infamous "barn find" would be the ones to be pulled, not the legit stuff.  Hell, just list them as a 'parts bike'.  Or maybe contact e-buy to see what's up, good possibility the ones pulling the listing doesn't even know what a frame is, let alone titles and other paperwork specifics.
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