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Offline DaveInTexas

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Sidestand seeps oil
« on: July 03, 2006, 10:30:54 PM »
Tell me, I can take it - cracked case?

The sidestand, anytime I leave the bike a few nights, when I lift the sidestand there is a wet black oily spot beneath it. 
I guess I am dreading getting under there and cleaning, watching, searching for the leak.
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Offline toycollector10

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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2006, 10:44:09 PM »
Relax, you will probably find it is just oil off your chain. The bike leans on it's side and the goo in behind your drive sprocket cover leaks over the frame and down onto your side-stand. A simple check is that if the oil is all sticky, it's chain oil for sure.
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2006, 10:59:24 PM »
I dunno mate, you might have blown a sidestand seal? ;D
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2006, 12:17:56 AM »
You taking the "P" again Terry.
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2006, 12:52:15 AM »
Get down there and wipe that mess up, my wifes two cents worth for you - that's what she would say if my bike was parked at home.

Probably a simple cleanup or tighten up job, hopefully nothing worse. :)
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2006, 02:32:51 AM »
Quote from: DaveInTexas on July 03, 2006, 10:30:54 PM
Tell me, I can take it - cracked case?

The sidestand, anytime I leave the bike a few nights, when I lift the sidestand there is a wet black oily spot beneath it. 
I guess I am dreading getting under there and cleaning, watching, searching for the leak.
Thanks

Do you still have a functioning auto chain oiler? That alone will cause this, mine did. Once I shut-off the auto oiler it stopped.. and the entire back end now stays clean.
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2006, 03:17:29 AM »
Quote from: Bob Wessner on July 04, 2006, 02:32:51 AM
Quote from: DaveInTexas on July 03, 2006, 10:30:54 PM
Tell me, I can take it - cracked case?

The sidestand, anytime I leave the bike a few nights, when I lift the sidestand there is a wet black oily spot beneath it. 
I guess I am dreading getting under there and cleaning, watching, searching for the leak.
Thanks

Do you still have a functioning auto chain oiler? That alone will cause this, mine did. Once I shut-off the auto oiler it stopped.. and the entire back end now stays clean.


I second that


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Offline toycollector10

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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2006, 06:06:07 AM »
"blown seal", that reminds me of a joke     :D

Now you must realise that I know F* all about bikes but feel really proud that I have posted on this topic.

I had the same problem and managed to tread some chain oil into the house (I have my garage under my living area)

My wife "flipped a psych" about the mess, but it wasn't a problem, she got down and cleaned it up because she is so house proud.

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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2006, 07:23:49 AM »
I can't recall if daveintexas has a 750 or 500/550, but someone else remarked on my pretty-much-similar question that although the sprocket cover does not have a seal/gasket (it is open to the atmosphere), the case under it does. Sometimes that shifter seal leaks (like if you tip the bike over and bend the shifter shaft) and it drains down the sidestand or centerstand or just drips off the case...
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2006, 01:55:20 PM »
Quote from: toycollector10 on July 04, 2006, 06:06:07 AM
"blown seal", that reminds me of a joke     :D

but it wasn't a problem, she got down and cleaned it up because she is so house proud.



Got any pics mate? ;D
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I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2006, 02:39:47 PM »
Had same issue after I overheated the bike in downtown Seattle 5 o'clock traffic last August, when it was about 100 out. The gasket on the alternator cover had gone bad and was dripping on the frame, running back along the frame to the side stand. Simple fix. Just pulled the alt cover, cleaned the surfaces real good, tossed the old gasket away and stuck it back together with hi-temp silicone.
No oil leak.
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2006, 04:29:40 PM »
Quote from: Terry in Australia on July 03, 2006, 10:59:24 PM
I dunno mate, you might have blown a sidestand seal? ;D
terry,i know what you mean,i blew my side stand seal last week. ;D
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2006, 05:41:21 PM »
Quote from: dusterdude on July 04, 2006, 04:29:40 PM
Quote from: Terry in Australia on July 03, 2006, 10:59:24 PM
I dunno mate, you might have blown a sidestand seal? ;D
terry,i know what you mean,i blew my side stand seal last week. ;D

I'll bet you a pound to a pinch of #$%* he's over filled the stand with the wrong grade of oil. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2006, 05:43:44 PM »
Maybe it was one of those experimental 750's that stored the oil in the frame and kickstand... ;)

(Erik Buell would be so proud!)
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2006, 07:47:59 PM »
Quote from: Boomologist on July 04, 2006, 02:39:47 PM
tossed the old gasket away and stuck it back together with hi-temp silicone.

Be very careful Ron, the #1 killer of CB750 engine's is silicone sealants, I wouldn't recommend using them anywhere! A Triumph mechanic killed my K1 25 years ago doing exactly that, I had a charging issue so he cracked the alternator cover gasket, couldn't be bothered replacing the gasket as the lazy #$%*er should have done, beads of silicone were then pumped around my engine with the oil, and blocked the oilways into the head. The result was that I needed to replace the following:

Pistons/rings/rebore to 3rd oversize
Cam/camtowers/rockers
Top end gasket set

Back then I had no tools or workshop facilities, so it cost me $1500.00 to repair! (and that was 25 years ago)Of course, he wouldn't admit that it was his fault, so I had to take out a loan to pay for it, all for the sake of that #$%* not replacing a 5 dollar gasket. Now I always have a gasket set in my garage just in case, and to keep costs down, I trace all the gaskets (except the head gasket) onto gasket paper so I can just make my own. The only sealant that I'll use with confidance is Threebond 1144 or Hondabond,Yamabond etc. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2006, 12:43:56 AM »
One of the most misused item in a shop is silicone sealant (second is vice grips). I, too, have seen engines trashed by the over use of silicone. One comes to mind; a Ford Fiesta. Someone used about two tubes of silicone on the head gasket of all places. When the head was installed it squished the silicone into the water passages and blocked most of them. The engine simply burned itself up because no coolant could get into the head.
Another place I've seen it misused is on carb float bowl gaskets. Same thing, it squishes out and ends up plugging the jets.
When I use any gasket sealer it's just a very thin coat. I then install the part, take it back off and clean any sealer that is squished out the sides. Then re-install the part. Never had a problem doing it that way.
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2006, 01:09:22 AM »
Hey Terry, have you got any dirty pics of your wife?


No??


You want some?     (TC reaches for his wallet)

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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2006, 03:00:25 AM »
Quote from: toycollector10 on July 05, 2006, 01:09:22 AM
Hey Terry, have you got any dirty pics of your wife?
No??You want some?     (TC reaches for his wallet) ;)

Why are you asking me about dirty pics mate, I wanted a pic of your wife cleaning up so I could show my wife that if I accidentally walk oil into the rug it's alright for her to clean it up, like your wife does? What gives? That's a bit uncalled for isn't it  ??? Moderator  ???
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I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2006, 03:59:04 AM »
No offence intended Tell, it's an old joke, maybe you're not as old as me...   

P.S. the pics are on   www.submissivewivescleaningupoilstains.com

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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2006, 04:53:21 AM »
Cant get that link to work >:(




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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2006, 05:04:16 AM »
Aussy State of Origin Footy, QLD win, ouch, is that Victoria?    NO!

This thread is all over the place, can I get booted off because of this post?
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2006, 05:07:15 AM »
WE WUZ ROBBED  :)
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2006, 05:12:37 AM »
A great game of footy...what a shame that the Aussies said that the Warriors will never win the  comp. Roll on Sunday!!
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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2006, 10:02:40 AM »
I have this issue with the leaking sidstand.

Originally thought it was my oiler... finally got the oiler stopped.  Then I discovered that I had a leak in my countershaft seal.

I tried the trick of using a big socket and hammer to "pop" a new one in, and it only sort of worked :-[, so now I have a smaller drip of oil from my sidestand.

I think of it now as my bikes signature... wherever I go there will be just a little dab of oil.... never more than a single dab....

someday I will attempt the countershaft seal again.  At least the bike doesn't oil the rear wheel any more  :D

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Re: Sidestand seeps oil
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2006, 11:57:11 AM »
when you get a wild hair a decide to tackle it again,check the shaft for a wear groove,seals like to cut grooves in the shafts sometimes.if it does have one,you will have to buy a wear ring to go over the groove on the shaft.
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