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Offline 78_SaltLick

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Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« on: July 05, 2006, 08:26:11 PM »
so im cheap and i bought 'the works' toilet bowel cleaner to do the inside of my tank. i have one question. If this stuff really takes all the rust away and im left with pin holes in my tank, can i just turn around and buy a por 15 kit and cream the inside of my tank or am i screwed unless i weld it? not sure if the cream stuff is suppose to be used before those holes are there or if its okay to use after the discovery of holes....i figure thats the reason they put that in the kit is for holes that are discovered after getting the rust out....just makin sure what i do can be "undone" without welding. My tank has ALOT of rust in it......
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2006, 08:35:17 PM »
i went through this with a Super Sport tank i got off of Ebay...

after i "de-rustified" it the pinholes were basically perforating the bottom edge - i did a lot of remediation work on it, but ended up trashing it - the holes were just too bad.

now i didn't try the Kreem - I have used the POR-15 - i haven't seen the Kreem, but i get the idea that it is thicker than the POR-15 - can anyone confirm or deny this???

the POR-15 is NOT a hole repair system. you could try de-rusting, drying, drying, drying and then use a fuel resistant/proof filler (some 2-part epoxy maybe) and then seal it on top of that, but I wouldn't even try it until you find out how big those holes are - if in fact they are there...

the paint was skinned over a series of holes on my tank - as soon as the rust was gone, so were the blisters.

good luck - it's worth the effort to get it cleaned out one way or another.
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2006, 09:22:38 PM »
You can try some JB weld the packaging says it will resist gas.  Now I have never tried it so maybe some of the other guys here can elaborate more on this.
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2006, 10:50:29 PM »
Quote from: huili on July 05, 2006, 09:22:38 PM
You can try some JB weld the packaging says it will resist gas.  Now I have never tried it so maybe some of the other guys here can elaborate more on this.

my friend used it some to plug the drain whole in his carb bowl cause it was always leaking.  worked good, of course now he has other issues to worry about....
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2006, 06:37:25 AM »
i used a version of JB weld on a petcock bowl - made several coats on the interior - very thin coats and allowed them to cure fully each time (24hrs) - then i took some silicon/fuel resistant adhesive and made a 4-layer barrier on top of the epoxy...squirted some down in there and then wiped it around with my finger - then let cure - repeat.

it works great.

can't do that with a tank of course, but i think using some epoxy and then covering it with something like POR-15 would work - why not?
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2006, 06:55:22 AM »
First, speaking of petcocks, take the damn thing off before using The Works, or you'll eat it up - I know this from experience, duh.  I cleaned my CB175 tank only to find 2 pinholes.  I used some sort of gas tank epoxy fix stuff from the local auto parts store and then covered the patch with some other clear-coat gas tank fixing stuff.  It sure looks good, but I'm still working on the bike, so I don't really know if it's fixed or just much cleaner junk.  That said, I stumbled upon another replacement tank, factory gold to match, which just arrived in the mail yesterday.  I do believe in Murphey's Law.
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2006, 07:19:24 AM »
that's nice - what'd'ya give for that?
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2006, 08:24:16 AM »
This the 'the works' you guys are talking about?

http://www.theworkscleans.com/toilet.htm

I've been looking for it in Canada (Toronto) and haven't come across it.
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2006, 09:57:48 AM »
tintin - that looks to be made by the same company - but it's not what i have used... i have used a product made by that same company - though it is not shown on that site you posted - and gotten good results.

the main ingredient to look for is phosphoric acid.
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2006, 10:40:00 AM »
Quote from: cbjunkie on July 06, 2006, 09:57:48 AM
tintin - that looks to be made by the same company - but it's not what i have used... i have used a product made by that same company - though it is not shown on that site you posted - and gotten good results.

the main ingredient to look for is phosphoric acid.

The main ingrediant to look for with 'the works' is hydrogen chloride, it says that on the front of the bottle i think its 20%. CB are you thinking about "the must for rust" i think thats what you used isnt it?
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2006, 11:06:45 AM »
oops - yeah you're right...
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2006, 12:26:55 PM »
my wife wants me to save what is poured out of my tank in the end to pour into our toilet bowel also.....two birds with one stone
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2006, 01:12:42 PM »
Quote from: 78_SaltLick on July 06, 2006, 12:26:55 PM
my wife wants me to save what is poured out of my tank in the end to pour into our toilet bowel also.....two birds with one stone

I hope you have a rust brown toilet bowl...

Or, would like to have one.
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2006, 02:30:34 PM »
How long do you leave this in for.  I was thinking of using the molasses method but that is suposed to take two days. if this is faster I might try this.
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2006, 02:55:03 PM »
Quote from: huili on July 06, 2006, 02:30:34 PM
How long do you leave this in for.  I was thinking of using the molasses method but that is suposed to take two days. if this is faster I might try this.

i gather about 30 minutes....you pour the contents in and shake it all around, do the hokey pokey then turn yourself around, and basically thats what its all about.
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2006, 02:57:53 PM »
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....you pour the contents in and shake it all around, do the hokey pokey then turn yourself around, and basically thats what its all about.

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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2006, 03:05:56 PM »
I *love* the Honkey pokey.  :-*
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2006, 04:21:27 PM »
You may want to do a search for Molasses on this forum. Many have reported that  Molasses eats rust and is much safer than acids and the like.
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2006, 10:48:41 PM »
I used vinegar about 2-3 gallons and chucked some bbs in there to help with the scrubbing action.

worked pretty good.  never did find a couple of those bbs tho
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Re: Cleaning tank and what to expect.
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2006, 01:39:36 AM »
i cleaned my tank out tonight, took longer than i thought i cleaned it with the works toilet cleaner. 1.99 at kmart, within 10 minutes the whole top of the tank was looking like new, after 30 minutes the whole tank looked like shiny new metal inside....i rinsed it out with water twice, then blow dried it for 15 minutes.....i would suggest drying your tank with that acetone stuff or whatever cause even with the blow dryer it flashed rusted a little in just that time, not bad just wasnt purely shiny new metal....i then sprayed some WD40 in there then filled it up to the top with gas, lookin good.....i would suggest the works toilet bowl cleaner to anyone, buck 99 sure beats $40 for the others.
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